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Thread: Is Anyone Who Defends a Racist Bigot a Racist Bigot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BitterPill View Post
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    I think it depends on context. For example, if a lawyer is representing a racist bigot in court, I don't think it would automatically make the lawyer a racist bigot.

    Can anyone find other examples?
    I would say YES.

    I believe Tamika Mallory is a racist and a bigot for supporting/defending Louis Farrakhan.

    Outrage over 'terrible' Atlantic apologist piece on Louis Farrakhan

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    Bigot AND RACIST are separate and distinct terms. they are not automatically inclusive of each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by excalibur View Post
    But he was a Communist, and for the people!
    Che has been dead since 1967. Maybe stop dumping on millennials because they aren't conversant enough with South American politics of their grandparents' era. Their fucking grandparents probably aren't either, and they lived through it!

    What about Fidel Castro? He died in 2016.

    Smh. Conservatives who condemn a man who spent his entire life fighting for his people on the stupid-simple basis that he called himself a Communist and allied his country with Russia is not "analysis". It's Pavlovian kneejerking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    the entire premise is flawed. first, we need to define what "defend" entails. If i defend someone from being killed and that person is a racist, it would not make me a racist. if someone were to call a racist a child raper, when the racist wasn't, would defending the racist from an untrue accusation make him a racist? What if the person being accused was NOT a racist? Would defending someone from a false accusation make him one as well?

    In short:

    1 The person being accused would actually have to be a racist.

    2 i would have to defend the racist comment, knowing that it was indeed, racist and not the person or some unrelated comment.

    3 I can defend a persons right to hold an opinion (even racist views), without actually sharing said opinion

    4 even if a person once used a racial epithet or once held racist views, it doesn't mean that they are a racist now.

    5 no one can really look inside someone to know if they are indeed a racist.
    I get the impression some kerfuffle kicked off on another thread which inspired this one
    May we know which one?

    We shouldn't have to guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John T Ford View Post
    I would say YES.

    I believe Tamika Mallory is a racist and a bigot for supporting/defending Louis Farrakhan.

    Outrage over 'terrible' Atlantic apologist piece on Louis Farrakhan
    Farrakhan is Satan Himself, but this person might not know his history. At least make room for the possibility that they were ignorant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Che has been dead since 1967. Maybe stop dumping on millennials because they aren't conversant enough with South American politics of their grandparents' era. Their fucking grandparents probably aren't either, and they lived through it!

    What about Fidel Castro? He died in 2016.

    Smh. Conservatives who condemn a man who spent his entire life fighting for his people on the stupid-simple basis that he called himself a Communist and allied his country with Russia is not "analysis". It's Pavlovian kneejerking.
    Abolishing due process, murdering thousands, plunging millions into abject poverty. Yes quite the warrior for the people.

    So according to you defending and idolizing a racist is fine if you are not conversant on politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by excalibur View Post
    Farrakhan.
    Complete this thought-fart, please.

    What about that sniveling, murdering child molester?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Farrakhan is Satan Himself, but this person might not know his history. At least make room for the possibility that they were ignorant?
    I think that is a given Madeline ....

    All folks on the left are ignorant.

    To be uniformed is the very thing that defines what it is to be a leftist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soupnazi View Post
    You could ask the legions of left wing regressives who defend and revere the racist Che Guevera.
    First, there are no legions of left wing regressives. Second, this is the first I've heard of Che being racist.

    They deny being racist bigots even though he was one.

    Are they lying?
    I'd say a Nazi calling Che racist is to be expected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John T Ford View Post
    I think that is a given Madeline ....

    All folks on the left are ignorant.

    To be uniformed is the very thing that defines what it is to be a leftist.
    That would make you a leftist.

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