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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    The answer to all your questions is MONEY.

    As usual...
    You love to point this out. Are you proposing we get rid of money then?

    Of course the reason people run private prison companies is to make money. That's not the question. The question is why do we allow people to run private prison companies?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pragmatic View Post
    Seems the single motivation in support of Privately run prisons is that it saves the state money.

    The WIKI on the topic provides a lot of content. For and against. And how the subject is addressed around the world.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_prison
    I suppose a fair argument could be made as to the virtue of sparing the state expenses. But the obvious potential for corruption and conflicts of interests far outweigh that quality in my mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    How for-profit prisons have become the biggest lobby no one is talking about

    Several industries have become notorious for the millions they spend on influencing legislation and getting friendly candidates into office: Big Oil, Big Pharma and the gun lobby among them. But one has managed to quickly build influence with comparatively little scrutiny: Private prisons. The two largest for-profit prison companies in the United States – GEO and Corrections Corporation of America – and their associates have funneled more than $10 million to candidates since 1989 and have spent nearly $25 million on lobbying efforts. Meanwhile, these private companies have seen their revenue and market share soar. They now rake in a combined $3.3 billion in annual revenue and the private federal prison population more than doubled between 2000 and 2010, according to a report by the Justice Policy Institute. Private companies house nearly half of the nation’s immigrant detainees, compared to about 25 percent a decade ago, a Huffington Post report found. In total, there are now about 130 private prisons in the country with about 157,000 beds.



    Why do we even have private prisons? Prisoners should properly be in the custody of the state, not some private entity with a profit motive. It seems like this might be one of the things contributing to our extremely high incarceration rate.
    I posted a thread about the re-enslavement for profit of Americans, primarily young men of color, since the Clintons first took up the presidency. Free on YouTube, EXTREMELY well-researched and sourced.

    Called "13th".

    There is a reason that this lobbying group has grown so large and powerful so fast, and it's because there are myriad ways to reap a profit from millions of enslaved humans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    The answer to all your questions is MONEY.

    As usual...
    Yep.

    There is a lot in the bible I don't ascribe to. But that love of money bit really nailed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StanStill View Post
    You love to point this out. Are you proposing we get rid of money then?
    I would.

    I know your comment wasn't aimed at me. But still - dispensing with money would be a great societal achievement. At least IMHO.
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    Hmm, I wonder what happens if one refuses to work or cooperate?

    If I'm a prisoner, my first priority is of course to survive, but the next biggest priority is to cost as much as possible and that certainly doesn't include working for the prison.

    If they send me to work on something I'm just going to try and sabotage as much expensive equipment as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thx1138 View Post
    Hmm, I wonder what happens if one refuses to work or cooperate?

    If I'm a prisoner, my first priority is of course to survive, but the next biggest priority is to cost as much as possible and that certainly doesn't include working for the prison.

    If they send me to work on something I'm just going to try and sabotage as much expensive equipment as possible.
    Your next biggest priority would probably not be conducive to your first priority. ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    The answer to all your questions is MONEY.

    As usual...
    Ayup. And after every man, woman and child of color has been enslaved aka incarcerated, there will be an appetite for white people. To a degree, this has already begun.

    It's class warfare and the 0.01% are not fucking around. If the rest of us don't unite behind progressive candidates, this country will look like a third world shithole in another decade or two.

    I don't rain abuse down on people who supported Hillary JUST for shits and giggles, although yes, it is fun. I do it because the lights are going out in America and you people are going to be the fucking voting block that sends all of us back to the feudal era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    Your next biggest priority would probably not be conducive to your first priority. ^^
    That's what I wonder: how much of the Constitution are they willing to ignore?

    Yes, I suppose they have the advantage,... for now... so did Nazi Germany...

    Still, I am going to do whatever I can to make it cost them, to cut into the profit.

    And... chances are someday I'm going to get out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thx1138 View Post
    That's what I wonder: how much of the Constitution are they willing to ignore?

    Yes, I suppose they have the advantage,... for now... so did Nazi Germany...

    Thx
    The 13th amendment does not apply to prisoners.

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