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    Quote Originally Posted by StanStill View Post
    You love to point this out. Are you proposing we get rid of money then?

    Of course the reason people run private prison companies is to make money. That's not the question. The question is why do we allow people to run private prison companies?
    Because they have money to donate to political campaigns, which they get by running private prisons. It's a complete circle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I'm not sure which is the worst abomination, private prisons or the ability of wealthy corporations to purchase congressmen. We seriously need to do away with both.
    Not really. Capitalism can be a tremendous blessing for all classes IF government enacts and enforces proper restraints.

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    How for-profit prisons have become the biggest lobby no one is talking about

    Several industries have become notorious for the millions they spend on influencing legislation and getting friendly candidates into office: Big Oil, Big Pharma and the gun lobby among them. But one has managed to quickly build influence with comparatively little scrutiny: Private prisons. The two largest for-profit prison companies in the United States – GEO and Corrections Corporation of America – and their associates have funneled more than $10 million to candidates since 1989 and have spent nearly $25 million on lobbying efforts. Meanwhile, these private companies have seen their revenue and market share soar. They now rake in a combined $3.3 billion in annual revenue and the private federal prison population more than doubled between 2000 and 2010, according to a report by the Justice Policy Institute. Private companies house nearly half of the nation’s immigrant detainees, compared to about 25 percent a decade ago, a Huffington Post report found. In total, there are now about 130 private prisons in the country with about 157,000 beds.



    Why do we even have private prisons? Prisoners should properly be in the custody of the state, not some private entity with a profit motive. It seems like this might be one of the things contributing to our extremely high incarceration rate.
    I suppose its all part of the "government cant do anything right - the private sector can do it cheaper and better" mentality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Because they have money to donate to political campaigns, which they get by running private prisons. It's a complete circle.
    Ayup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    I suppose its all part of the "government cant do anything right - the private sector can do it cheaper and better" mentality.
    It's a bit more elaborate than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    I suppose its all part of the "government cant do anything right - the private sector can do it cheaper and better" mentality.
    Private prisons camouflage the naked greed that has prisoners out working on agricultural fields again.

    The exact same way "charter schools" conceal the 0.01%'s intention to end free public education in America. Not necessarily government control of our kids, but literacy, basic math skills, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thx1138 View Post
    That's what I wonder: how much of the Constitution are they willing to ignore?

    Yes, I suppose they have the advantage,... for now... so did Nazi Germany...

    Still, I am going to do whatever I can to make it cost them, to cut into the profit.

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    If your first priority in prison is to survive - it would probably not be a good idea to go on a rampage sabotaging and destroying expensive equipment. Correctional officers are some scary and corrupt dudes.

    You would be much better off trying to keep a low profile and staying out of trouble if your first priority is to survive.
    Last edited by Jeremy; 12th March 2018 at 09:23 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnflesh View Post
    It's a bit more elaborate than that.
    Of course! Ever call customer service for a big online vendor? Odds are about 99% that if the person who took your call was not in India, he or she was in an American prison.

    Making 25 cents an hour, for a privately owned company, such as Hyatt or Avis, etc.

    Your college aged daughter is giving the address of her first apartment to
    some pleasant man fielding calls for Home Goods, who might be in prison for rape and due to be released soon.

    See a potential problem or two?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Not really. Capitalism can be a tremendous blessing for all classes IF government enacts and enforces proper restraints.
    Capitalism is great. It's the financial incentive to lock people up that is an abomination, particularly when paired with the ability to affect legislation that makes it easier to lock up more people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    How in the hell did you manage a retort involving me not caring about the constitution and Nazi Germany? lol

    The point of my post was if your first priority in prison is to survive - it would probably not be a good idea to go on a rampage sabotaging and destroying expensive equipment. Correctional officers are some scary and corrupt dudes.

    You would be much better off trying to keep a low profile and staying out of trouble if your first priority is to survive. That was my point. It had nothing to do with the constitution or Nazi Germany.
    How the hell did you get me saying "you don't care about the Constitution and Nazi Germany"? Did I say that? Did I mention you (or anyone) specifically?

    Stop being so sensitive, lol, no one was talking about you.

    Yes, one would have to size up the situation when there, but that doesn't mean there aren't things I can do, everyone can do collectively.

    I CAN have two priorities: I am to waste as much money as possible without it threatening my survival.

    What's so hard to understand about that?

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