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    Quote Originally Posted by TNHarley View Post
    Really? You ask that after i have implied it more than once in this very thread? OK lol
    Yes, lets forget everything he did against trump before election night to our country..
    Im done. Partisan hacks are getting more boring by the day. I mean, who likes broken records?
    Have a good one, roy!
    He did NOTHING against Trump BEFORE election night. AFTER, yes. NOT before. If you've got ANY evidence to the contrary, bring it on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNHarley View Post
    How do you know? I mean, seriously?
    Do idiots that think they can read minds ever get tired of sounding like idiots?
    Point is, you have no idea. But hack away anyways bro!
    The intelligence community here and around the world are convinced that Putin wanted Trump elected. That's how I know. Yes, they also want to undermine our form of government and divide us. But putin most certainly wanted Trump elected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    Putin would NOT have been happy to see anti-Russia hawk Marco Rubio as the GOP candidate! If it had been Rubio vs Hillary, Putin might have decided not to meddle at all, not liking either candidate. If it had been Bernie vs Trump, Putin might have been happy with either candidate winning, and again might have decided not to meddle. In the case that actually took place, he had a definite preference.
    True although Putin has done a good job of making some in the GOP out to be dufuses like GW and Graham. He likes to portray himself as this strong man and them as dummy momma boys. I think thats why he doesnt like Merkel, she isnt easy to make fun of. One of those machismo things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    No doubt, but China is the only PLAUSIBLE challenger to the United States as THE superpower of the world. The Wall Street Journal a few weeks ago had a major insert on how China is pumping tens of billions of dollars into artificial intelligence, supercomputers, and etc., and has a definite plan to dominate these fields of technology by the year 2030. This is a Sputnik moment for America. I am out of time for now; perhaps more on this later.
    But I do think Putin will try to align themselves more with Russia and then they will be our challengers. So in a backdoor way it also makes Russia equally dangerous too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNHarley View Post
    Putin got an anti trump rally and a trump rally like 2 blocks away from each other, at the same time. THINK about that for a minute!
    He wanted Trump elected and to divide us. THINK about that for a minute!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    I do think though, with Hillary as the opponent, Putin would likely have supported anyone else whether it had been Kasich, Bush, Rubio etc. Recall a Sanders associate and Jill Stein had dined with Putin and Flynn in 2015 so its also likely had Sanders won the nomination, he would have favored him. Maybe more so than Trump, since Bernie had spent a lot of time in the former USSR.
    Possibly, but keep this in mind:

    The London-based data firm Cambridge Analytica was testing out slogans like "Drain the Swamp" and "Build the Wall" as early as 2014, the same year Russia launched its social media influence operation targeting the 2016 US election.

    Those slogans would later become the bedrock of Republican nominee Donald Trump's platform while he campaigned for the presidency. He invoked them frequently at his rallies, and his supporters often chanted them.
    Cambridge Analytica tested pro-Trump slogans as Russia began meddling - Business Insider
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    I have no doubt that Putin has long wanted Trump and maybe even courted him years ago. I recall after the wall came down in the late 80s and the USSR was falling apart, Trump was one of those businessmen who went over to look at opportunities there for his company. So there is definitely a long term deal potentially there. But I also have grown more concerned that there was a coordinated effort to split dems and make them against each other. There has been little said about that as well but that dinner over there looks like there could even have been some effort between Trump/Sanders/Stein to make it all work. If Clinton won, then the division causes a large percent of dems to get pissed, had Sanders won, then maybe Putin would have been happy with either. I just worry with Bernie again making waves about running, we should be looking into his campaigns role as well before another division occurs in 2020.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    I have no doubt that Putin has long wanted Trump and maybe even courted him years ago. I recall after the wall came down in the late 80s and the USSR was falling apart, Trump was one of those businessmen who went over to look at opportunities there for his company. So there is definitely a long term deal potentially there. But I also have grown more concerned that there was a coordinated effort to split dems and make them against each other. There has been little said about that as well but that dinner over there looks like there could even have been some effort between Trump/Sanders/Stein to make it all work. If Clinton won, then the division causes a large percent of dems to get pissed, had Sanders won, then maybe Putin would have been happy with either. I just worry with Bernie again making waves about running, we should be looking into his campaigns role as well before another division occurs in 2020.
    Amen to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    I wonder when they began testing the slogan 'Lock Her Up!!'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    Amen to that.
    Could easily happen again in 2020. As I keep saying, even with Trump out of the equation all may not be well. If Putin fought and planned this hard to get things his way, he isnt going to sit back and watch it fall apart.
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