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    Quote Originally Posted by bonehead View Post
    does the supreme court agree? no, they don't. your viewpoint is not valid.
    And, you are blinded to what's going on in this Country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    There is no legal way...NO CONSTITUTIONAL way to leave the union. Leaving the Union would require a Constitutional amendment to make it constitutional [LEGAL].
    Close, but not quite. There are two possible ways a state could legally leave the United States:

    1) Revolution; or,

    2) Consent of the states.

    Texas v. White, 74 U.S. 700, 726 (1869).

    Revolution is obvious, of course, because in that case the Constitution will have been rendered void as a practical matter and the government it created would be destroyed and replaced. It is not clear, however, what "consent of the states" means, except that consent of ALL the states would certainly be constitutional, because that was not a question the White Court had to address.

    So it can be done. It just is not likely. In any event, the potential threat of another civil war by conservatives is why liberals should stockpile weapons and ammunition, to defend against conservatives who would seek to destroy the Constitution by force of arms.

    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    A state legislature debating secession has ZERO relevance in reality.
    That much is true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John T Ford View Post
    And, you are blinded to what's going on in this Country.
    No, he is not.

    You, however, are either blind to what is "going on in this country," or are a part of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    No, he is not.

    You, however, are either blind to what is "going on in this country," or are a part of it.
    LMAO ....

    Now we have the blind leading the blind ....

    This is great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John T Ford View Post
    It's more than just gun rights advocates.

    It's all Freedom and Liberty loving patriots.


    Which one is Roy Moore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by john t ford View Post
    i expect to see secession in our lifetime.

    Or .... More like the us splinting up into smaller countries.
    roflmao!

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    Quote Originally Posted by John T Ford View Post
    I don't know what universe you are living in but, Mueller's investigation is unConstitutional.

    There has to be evidence of a crime in order to appoint a special counsel.

    To this day, some year and a few months into the investigation, there remains NO evidence of a crime.

    Mueller did not have the legal authority to authorize the pre-dawn raid on Manafort's house.

    But, these thing are happening in front of our very eyes.

    Well ..... at least for those of us who can see.

    What other provisions, amendments, articles of the US Constitution are going to be ignored?

    Illegal confiscation of weapons seems to be next for some states.
    Leave it to a Texan living in Nowhere, Texas to think he knows more about an investigation than lawyer Robert Mueller knows. How arrogant and stupid to do such a thing, John. Don't you know Mueller was appointed by George W. Bush. Don't you know Mueller is a republican.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    If democrats think gun owners are just going let guns be confiscated they are in for big surprise. Gun owners will fight to keep their guns and their constitutional rights.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ced-over-gun-/
    Good. That'll increase the median IQ of the nation at least 5 pts. Get rid of Texas, it'll be 10 more...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly5 View Post
    Leave it to a Texan living in Nowhere, Texas to think he knows more about an investigation than lawyer Robert Mueller knows. How arrogant and stupid to do such a thing, John. Don't you know Mueller was appointed by George W. Bush. Don't you know Mueller is a republican.
    Oh. He's in Texas? Make it 20 points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John T Ford View Post
    It's more than just gun rights advocates.

    It's all Freedom and Liberty loving patriots.
    Freedom and Liberty Loving patriot. Probably from Texas.


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