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    Should we put shame on us all? We burden our children.

    Should we put shame on us all? We burden our children.

    It is said that all parents hurt their children in some way or another. This is true, inadvertently.

    No sane parent plans to intentionally hurt their children. Except, shamefully, in these enlightened times.

    We are showing ourselves to be quite callous. Perhaps this is not the brightest thing to do.

    We intentionally pass on our negative biases to our children and continue to pass on our war mongering ways and debt.

    I hope, like me; you do not take pride in passing on debt, a polluted world, continuing strife in issues that should have been resolved hundreds of years ago, homophobia, misogyny etc.

    If we were half as bright as we think we are, none of us would be passing on our responsibilities and creating hardship for our progeny.

    I have no way to effect mass change and am thus a prisoner to my shame.

    I thought some might share theirs with me.

    Caring seems to be at a low point these days.

    Polarization is evil as it inhibits caring.

    Shame reduces polarization.

    Share your shame.

    It is sharing love.

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    Yes, from 2009-2008 money more money was borrowed than was borrowed from 1776-2007.

    Also if you look at the Debt.. (Only Congress can BORROW on the credit of the united states Article 1 section 8 clause 2 of the US Constitution)

    The Debt created was created when X parties controlled the Borrowing 21 trillion total national debt

    Democrats (Controlling BOTH houses of Congress) Borrowed 14.2 Trillion dollars of our national Debt 2/3 of the total debt

    GOP (Congrolling Both Houses of Congress has borrowed 3.1 Trillion of our debt 1/7th

    Divided Congresses Borrowed 3.7 Trillion of our total national debt
    http://goliards.us/adelphi/deficits/index.html


    Democrats Congresses (Post 1950 Balanced the Budget 1 time 1969) That occurred because the SS trust by a bill passed by democrat congress in 1966 and was set to be implemented starting January 1, 1969 moved the SS Surplus and future Surplus Rvenues to the General Operational Budget of the United states

    GOP congresses balanced the Budget 5 times over the same period.


    GOP balanced the Budget 5 times


    Current Cuts are Revenue neutral if the GDP grows at 1.9% if the GDP grows less than 1.9% the tax cuts will be Revenue Negative, if the GDP Grows >1.9% the Tax Cuts will be Revenue positive. Right Now the Economy is Growing at 2.7-2.9% (first Quarter of 2018 if it grows >1.9% the Revenue collection will be greater than would occur under the old tax law)


    the problem is NOT taxes it is spending.. if you make 3 trillion a year SPEND LESS than 3 Trillion dollars
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    Nice that you recognize the immorality of putting debt on our children.

    We, considering the environmental mess and the huge economic costs we are also giving our children, will have history putting shame on our generation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    Nice that you recognize the immorality of putting debt on our children.

    We, considering the environmental mess and the huge economic costs we are also giving our children, will have history putting shame on our generation.

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    And not only that, it's ALL the Democrat's fault - just ask TNFanatic!

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    The debt issue is real, but this is a strange way to conceptualize what is a universal human failing. If a problem has existed for hundreds of years, it's odd to blame a single generation for not solving it before passing it on to the next generation.

    You personalize an issue that isn't personal. The ways parents "hurt their children" are idiosyncratic to families, but you want to universalize that issue in a way that holds individuals accountable for a collective problem. It's a fundamentally illogical way to conceive the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikingbeast View Post
    And not only that, it's ALL the Democrat's fault - just ask TNFanatic!
    It is the fault of all of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    The debt issue is real, but this is a strange way to conceptualize what is a universal human failing. If a problem has existed for hundreds of years, it's odd to blame a single generation for not solving it before passing it on to the next generation.

    You personalize an issue that isn't personal. The ways parents "hurt their children" are idiosyncratic to families, but you want to universalize that issue in a way that holds individuals accountable for a collective problem. It's a fundamentally illogical way to conceive the issue.
    The only generation I can move to a better moral position is this one.

    If you do not see yourself as a part of the problem, then you will not be a part of the solution.

    If none of us personally do not feel the shame we should, then we perpetuate the immoral actions of the whole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    The only generation I can more to a better moral position is this one.

    If you do not see yourself as a part of the problem, then you will not be a part of the solution.

    If none of us personally do not feel the shame we should, then we perpetuate the immoral actions of the whole.

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    You confuse the micro with the macro. We each individually can change. We cannot change human nature. Many people have foolishly tried. Some of the worst tragedies in human history come from trying to change human nature. Your track record here suggests that you are quite interested in imposing your own ideas on others in the name of morality. Never works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    You confuse the micro with the macro. We each individually can change. We cannot change human nature. Many people have foolishly tried. Some of the worst tragedies in human history come from trying to change human nature. Your track record here suggests that you are quite interested in imposing your own ideas on others in the name of morality. Never works.
    Change human nature?

    I agree that our natures cannot be changed. What I am suggesting is that we recognize and live up to our human natures that tell us that we are intentionally hurting our children and should stop.

    "Your track record here suggests that you are quite interested in imposing your own ideas on others in the name of morality."

    Going personal shows a small mindedness.

    But since you went there, for evil to grow, all those with better morals need do is not try to chage the minds of those with poor morals.

    You used the word impose. I cannot impose anything on anyone. I can only show my better moral sense and hope that it is recognized. It seems that I have failed in your case.

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    The Debt? LOL! The next war will take care of that. Well, the part we owe to other countries.

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