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    Trump's Conduct

    I would like to ask Trump supporters how they view Trump's conduct. I realize that we all tend to defend or attack Trump based on our ideologies, but there seems to be too much crappy stuff surfacing from Trump's past. Aside from how you think Trump is performing the actual job of potus, what is your take on all this other crap from his past, like being on his third wife, messing around with porn stars and centerfolds while being married, shady business deals, etc... Is it hard to look past all his baggage? Are you concerned about the shame that he is putting on the country? Step aside from policy for a moment, and just answer about his shameful behavior.

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    I care as much for Trumps activities before he was in politics as liberals care about the sexual, criminal, and sneaky political activities of JFK, LBJ, Clinton, and Obama WHEN they were in elective office.

    If it were not for the double standard, Liberals would have no standards at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntiTrump View Post
    I would like to ask Trump supporters how they view Trump's conduct. I realize that we all tend to defend or attack Trump based on our ideologies, but there seems to be too much crappy stuff surfacing from Trump's past. Aside from how you think Trump is performing the actual job of potus, what is your take on all this other crap from his past, like being on his third wife, messing around with porn stars and centerfolds while being married, shady business deals, etc... Is it hard to look past all his baggage? Are you concerned about the shame that he is putting on the country? Step aside from policy for a moment, and just answer about his shameful behavior.
    First off...what you label as shameful many of us do not consider shameful, that is just your politically motivated biased opinion.

    Personally I am not a big fan of his tweets or tweeting in general. Yet, that is one way, in fact maybe the only way he can talk directly to the people without the press taking it and warping what he says.

    One thing I do appreciate is I do not have to wonder what he is thinking, I see no political correctness and appreciate it. I see him attempting to do exactly what he promised on the campaign. I see him not acting like a politician and saying what he thinks the people want to hear. I'm tired of leaders using polls to determine what to say, how to say it and when to say what.

    We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    I care as much for Trumps activities before he was in politics as liberals care about the sexual, criminal, and sneaky political activities of JFK, LBJ, Clinton, and Obama WHEN they were in elective office.

    If it were not for the double standard, Liberals would have no standards at all.
    Touche'

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    Quote Originally Posted by carpe diem View Post
    First off...what you label as shameful many of us do not consider shameful, that is just your politically motivated biased opinion.

    Personally I am not a big fan of his tweets or tweeting in general. Yet, that is one way, in fact maybe the only way he can talk directly to the people without the press taking it and warping what he says.

    One thing I do appreciate is I do not have to wonder what he is thinking, I see no political correctness and appreciate it. I see him attempting to do exactly what he promised on the campaign. I see him not acting like a politician and saying what he thinks the people want to hear. I'm tired of leaders using polls to determine what to say, how to say it and when to say what.

    We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
    It sounds like you do not see any of his conduct as shameful in the first place, and that you are not able to view this separately from his actual job as potus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntiTrump View Post
    It sounds like you do not see any of his conduct as shameful in the first place, and that you are not able to view this separately from his actual job as potus.
    But Trump is a member of "God's party," that matters! Even though he's not really a conservative.
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    I find much of his conduct shameful. Then again, I didn't vote for him. That said, I don't hate everything he's done as President. I just do my best to "call balls and strikes," as they say.

    What was/is missed by many -- myself included -- is that a significant portion of the voting public was/is able to look past some (even most) of his shameful behavior by rationalizing it thusly: I'm not voting for the Pope or a moral/religious leader. I'm voting for the person I think can get the job done.
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    It's not about ideologies with me, i am anti trump because he is a vile human being, his egomanic personality, his i am so great attitude, his not knowing anything of how gov't works, his constant childish tweets, so unbecoming of a President, he is so unqualified and unfit, and i really do believe his has mental problems. Hope the warrants on Cohen can find something on this man-child so we can get him the hell out of town.
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    What exactly are Trump's accomplishments?

    Tracking Trump's promises Updated January 19, 2018, 3 p.m. est est

    Repeal and replace Obamacare=Nope



    Halt Muslim entry into US=Nope


    Move the US Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem=Yes


    Withdraw from Paris climate agreement=Yes but now wants back in and the other countries are like HELL NO !


    Block Syrian refugees=yes and no

    The test for foreign nationals under the Supreme Court's ruling is whether one has a "credible claim of bona fide relationship" with either an entity (like a school or a job) or a person living in the US (such as a spouse).
    A hotel reservation, for example, will not constitute a bona fide relationship under the executive order, but an academic lecturer invited to speak in the US will be exempt from the travel ban.
    If you can't sufficiently establish such a close relationship, you are banned for 90 days if you are from Libya, Syria, Iran, Somalia, Yemen and Sudan, and 120 days if you are a refugee from any country.


    Reverse environmental restrictions=Yes and NO, some were reversed by alot weren't due to GOP governor pushbacks=oil and gas drilling to the waters off Florida, conceding to vocal opposition from the Republican governor of the tourism-driven state.

    Improve Russia relations=Nope


    Build a US-Mexico border wall=Nope


    Deport millions of undocumented immigrants=Yes but overall number is actually fewer under Trump as fewer people are coming into the US. The ones deported are the ones living in the USA for years and some of them were actually contributing to the US as employers or skilled employers.


    Withdraw from the TPP=Yes but now he wants back in the other countries don't want to let the USA back into the agreement


    Renegotiate or withdraw from NAFTA=Yes/no=still no new deal


    Lower taxes for individuals and corporations=Yes but the individual tax cuts are temporary and the corporations are permanant.WASHINGTON — The federal government’s annual budget deficit is set to widen significantly in the next few years, and is expected to top $1 trillion in 2020 despite healthy economic growth, according to new projections from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office released Monday.

    The national debt, which has exceeded $21 trillion, will soar to more than $33 trillion in 2028, according to the budget office. By then, debt held by the public will almost match the size of the nation’s economy, reaching 96 percent of gross domestic product, a higher level than any point since just after World War II and well past the level that economists say could court a crisis.

    The fear among some economists is that rising deficits will drive up interest rates, raise borrowing costs for the private sector, tank stock prices and slow the economy, which would only drive the deficit higher.

    Renegotiate the Iran deal=NOPE


    Bring back torture=NOPE


    Get rid of Common Core=NOPE


    Defeat ISIS=NOPE


    Create a Muslim registry=NOPE


    Build up Guantanamo Bay=NOPE


    Rebuild America's infrastructure=NOPE


    Bring jobs back from overseas=NOPE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderer View Post
    I find much of his conduct shameful. Then again, I didn't vote for him. That said, I don't hate everything he's done as President. I just do my best to "call balls and strikes," as they say.

    What was/is missed by many -- myself included -- is that a significant portion of the voting public was/is able to look past some (even most) of his shameful behavior by rationalizing it thusly: I'm not voting for the Pope or a moral/religious leader. I'm voting for the person I think can get the job done.
    I'd like to expand/improve on that.....but i can't.

    Nicely stated.
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