View Poll Results: should trump be impeached?

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  • no....leave him where he is for now.

    5 33.33%
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    3 20.00%
  • other...please do explain.

    4 26.67%
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    should trump be impeached ( multiple choice poll )

    why multiple choice?

    Because, people may quite possibly be conflicted about their positions. Sure. They might think that Trump should be impeached - or not. However, political views are rarely that simple. It might very well be in the best interest of Dems , should they take back the House, to hold off on impeaching Trump. Having him at the top of the ticket will force Republican's running for office to defend the head of the party. Trump may well be a liability. Similar to how Dems had to defend Obamacare in the midterms following it's passage. On the other hand, there might be Republican's that think Trump should be at the top of the ticket as well. They might think that by the time the general election rolls around he'll have enough political momentum to help the party secure a second term. Some political experts are even predicting he'll be reelected. But, of course, there may be some Republican's that want him gone, sooner rather than later.

    why the poll?

    Because, there seems to be a perception on the right that Dems and liberals will settle for nothing less than impeaching Trump the second Dems take back the house. We hear about "the resistance" all the time. We hear about "the blue wave" all the time. We hear about the "me too" movement all the time. We hear about the "never again" movement all the time. Trump is generating excitement on the left that we haven't seen since Obama's first presidential election. The base wants Trump gone , sooner rather than later - by any political means necessary. That's just a fact. Dems are under pressure to resist Trump. Those that don't are seen as part of the reasons why the party finds itself in it's current predicament.

    What say you?
    Impeach Trump.
    Yay or nay.

    Or .......
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    As of today, I'd say no. There isn't yet a strong enough case for impeachment, in my opinion. There is no point engaging in impeachment proceedings so long as Trump maintains the support of even 1/3 of the Senate. Unless something incredibly shocking is revealed related to Trump's dealings with his mistresses, then I don't think that Trump would lose the support of Senate Republicans prior to Mueller completing his investigation. If Mueller finished his investigation tomorrow, and significant criminal behavior was revealed, I doubt that very many of the House Republicans would vote to impeach.

    Should Mueller not complete his investigation until after the midterms, assuming that Democrats take control of the House, then it might be possible for them to pass impeachment proceedings. Even then though, it would be an exercise in futility that would harm Democrats politically should the Senate fail to convict. It will be practically impossible for Democrats to win a majority in the Senate in the midterm elections, but Republican Senators, for the most part, are not quite such radical extremists as is the typical House Republican. I think that some of them would vote to convict, should the impeachment be based upon a serious enough charge.

    Now, if it could be proved in the very near future that Trump was not only aware of, but was directly involved in threatening physical harm to ex-mistresses in order to guarantee their silence, Republicans in both the House and the Senate might make the political calculation that they couldn't stand behind Trump and still win their upcoming elections. Should Trump attempt to fire Mueller, either directly, or by firing either Rosenstein or Sessions in order to shut down the investigation, then that could also put enough political pressure on congressional Republicans for them to support impeachment.

    To summarize, I'm opposed to Democrats pushing for impeachment unless and until there is a very high probability of conviction in the Senate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    To summarize, I'm opposed to Democrats pushing for impeachment unless and until there is a very high probability of conviction in the Senate.

    I'd also like to say that, should we reach this point, it is highly unlikely that impeachment proceedings would actually occur. I think that Trump, like Nixon before him, would choose to resign rather than to face a successful impeachment and conviction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    I'd also like to say that, should we reach this point, it is highly unlikely that impeachment proceedings would actually occur. I think that Trump, like Nixon before him, would choose to resign rather than to face a successful impeachment and conviction.
    disagree. I think Trump would rather see a civil war than resign. The only way that might change is if he's facing some sort of jail time or financial ruin. As far as impeachment, I'm conflicted. It's clearly the right thing to do if he's found to have violated the law. But, keeping him at the top of the ticket would benefit the Dems in the general. Of course, that's putting aside the fact that they thought having him as the nominee would ensure a HRC victory. That didn't work out so well.

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    no crime for impeachment committed.

    IG Report is further confirmation of this.
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    No, from day one, the left have been foaming at the mouth to impeach Trump. The 1,001 reasons to date are laughable.

    Not liking Trump is not an impeachable reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slartibartfast View Post
    No, from day one, the left have been foaming at the mouth to impeach Trump. The 1,001 reasons to date are laughable.

    Not liking Trump is not an impeachable reason.

    "The left" must be a small contingent, since I haven't witnessed this foaming at the mouth of which you speak.

    Maybe it's just a UK thing, huh?

    What does that stand for anyway? University of Kentucky?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slartibartfast View Post
    No, from day one, the left have been foaming at the mouth to impeach Trump. The 1,001 reasons to date are laughable.

    Not liking Trump is not an impeachable reason.
    who's "left"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    "The left" must be a small contingent, since I haven't witnessed this foaming at the mouth of which you speak.

    Maybe it's just a UK thing, huh?

    What does that stand for anyway? University of Kentucky?
    Don't know about that, but it's been rumored that the BIG RED 'N' on the University of Nebraska football team's helmets stands for: Nowledge.

    It's an ugly rumor, mostly spread by the folks in neighboring states such as Colorado and Iowa and Kansas and Wyoming.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    why multiple choice?

    Because, people may quite possibly be conflicted about their positions. Sure. They might think that Trump should be impeached - or not. However, political views are rarely that simple. It might very well be in the best interest of Dems , should they take back the House, to hold off on impeaching Trump. Having him at the top of the ticket will force Republican's running for office to defend the head of the party. Trump may well be a liability. Similar to how Dems had to defend Obamacare in the midterms following it's passage. On the other hand, there might be Republican's that think Trump should be at the top of the ticket as well. They might think that by the time the general election rolls around he'll have enough political momentum to help the party secure a second term. Some political experts are even predicting he'll be reelected. But, of course, there may be some Republican's that want him gone, sooner rather than later.

    why the poll?

    Because, there seems to be a perception on the right that Dems and liberals will settle for nothing less than impeaching Trump the second Dems take back the house. We hear about "the resistance" all the time. We hear about "the blue wave" all the time. We hear about the "me too" movement all the time. We hear about the "never again" movement all the time. Trump is generating excitement on the left that we haven't seen since Obama's first presidential election. The base wants Trump gone , sooner rather than later - by any political means necessary. That's just a fact. Dems are under pressure to resist Trump. Those that don't are seen as part of the reasons why the party finds itself in it's current predicament.

    What say you?
    Impeach Trump.
    Yay or nay.

    Or .......
    Depends on the investigation. If Mueller finds impeachable offences, then probably yes. If the Dems can't get the votes, they may still be able to force the Reps to choose. If they won't be able to force a vote, then I guess they just take whatever they can get and move on.

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