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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    Why anyone would vote for someone who believes government cant do anything right is beyond me.
    Adventists were and still tend to be avid Trump supporters. I'm sure Carson has his position in the administration for exactly that reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    So now conservatives define hatred as wanting to see a decent life for all Americans?
    Nah ....

    We just define the Democratic Party as hatred.

    And, that's nothing new.

    The Party of Jim Crow, the KKK, and HRC mentor, Robert Byrd ..... always been that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John T Ford View Post
    Nah ....

    We just define the Democratic Party as hatred.

    And, that's nothing new.

    The Party of Jim Crow, the KKK, and HRC mentor, Robert Byrd ..... always been that way.
    If you had a passing acquaintance with history, you'd know the KKK, and jim crow were the work of conservative, southern white men - the same ilk that now call themselves republican.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    If you had a passing acquaintance with history, you'd know the KKK, and jim crow were the work of conservative, southern white men - the same ilk that now call themselves republican.
    If John had a passing acquaintance with history, he wouldn't have flunked all his history courses.
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    Was it Democrats marching in Charlottesville chanting "blood and soil" and "Jews will not replace us"? Who knew?
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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    If you had a passing acquaintance with history, you'd know the KKK, and jim crow were the work of conservative, southern white men - the same ilk that now call themselves republican.
    Keep telling yourself the "history revisionist" BS.

    Conservatives are Republicans, not Democrats .... you know, the party of Lincoln, the Party that forced your party to end slavery and sign the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John T Ford View Post
    Keep telling yourself the "history revisionist" BS.

    Conservatives are Republicans, not Democrats .... you know, the party of Lincoln, the Party that forced your party to end slavery and sign the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
    The Republican party of the sixties were that of Bush and Rockefeller. The northern Democrats voting on Civil Rights sent the Dixiecrats running.

    The GOP let them in and it's ruined the GOP. The Dixiecrats run the RNC now. People like Bush, McCain, Kasich, Kent, Dole, Rockefeller, are out.

    Roy Moore, Donald Trump, Steve Bannon , David Duke are the new GOP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    I would not admit to wanting to vote for him either....
    It is irrelevant as all your posts are

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    The Republican party of the sixties were that of Bush and Rockefeller. The northern Democrats voting on Civil Rights sent the Dixiecrats running.

    The GOP let them in and it's ruined the GOP. The Dixiecrats run the RNC now. People like Bush, McCain, Kasich, Kent, Dole, Rockefeller, are out.

    Roy Moore, Donald Trump, Steve Bannon , David Duke are the new GOP.
    History Revisionist BS.

    The Democrat Party is the same Party it has always been.

    The Dixiecrat Party ceased operations in 1948.

    Strom Thurman died 16 years ago.

    There is NO Dixiecrats or Dixiecrat Party.

    And, here's another bit of info .... there are no Whigs either.

    Politicians like Bush, McCain, Kasich, Kent, Dole are big government progressives and abandoned their Party's core base, which are conservatives who would never vote for the racist Democrat party. These RINO's abandoning their core base voters actually caused the election of Donald trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    Really? Are we the ones claiming if you cut taxes you will increase revenue more than you would if you left taxes the same? The Bush cuts cost over 3.5 trillion dollars of tax revenue that was then added to the deficit, but you didn't know that, did you?



    https://www.google.com/search?source....0.zft05n4xdrk
    More lies

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway.../#49105fa958d5

    The second, and more critical conclusion from Table 1 is that the next four years of the Bush Presidency after the 2003 reduction in tax rates saw a 44% increase in Federal tax revenues from $1.782 trillion to $2.568 trillion. That’s correct – a 44% increase in revenues after the so-called “tax break for the wealthy.”

    The key question here is what did the wealthy contribute to this impressive increase in tax revenues? Let’s examine four income groups based on their adjusted gross income: the top 0.1% of earners representing about 129,000 tax returns in 2003 and 141,000 tax returns in 2007; the top 1% of earners representing 1,286,000 returns in 2003 and 1,411,000 returns in 2007; the top 25-50% of earners representing 32,152,000 returns in 2003 and 35,268,000 returns in 2007; and finally the bottom 50% of earners representing 64,305,000 returns in 2003 and 70,535,000 returns in 2007. Table 2 shows the total income tax and percent of total Federal tax revenues paid by each income group in 2003 and in 2007. As Table 2 shows very clearly, the top 0.1% and top 1% of earners (which includes all millionaires and billionaires) had major increases in their income tax payments between 2003 and 2007, both in absolute dollars as well as in their % contribution to total taxes while the 25-50% income group and the bottom 50% income group saw their share of total taxes fall and their absolute tax payments increased trivially. When we look at the daily cost of increased taxes for the average tax payer in each income bracket we see that the top 0.1% paid $1,887 per day more in 2007 than in 2003. (Remember this is despite the fact that their tax rates were reduced.) The top 1% of earners paid an increase of $58 per day, the top 25-50% of earners paid an extra $1 per day, and the bottom 50% paid an increase of 14 cents per day.

    So, if the top 0.1% of earners saw their tax bill increase 1,887 times more than the top 25-50% of earners (the income bracket that includes the average household income) and almost 14,000 times more than the bottom 50% of earners and if the top 1% of earners saw their tax bill increase 58 times more than the top 25-50% of earners and 414 times more than the bottom 50% of earners, where is the evidence that the wealthy were preferentially favored by the Bush tax policy changes? Despite the fact that politicians and the media repeatedly make this claim, the truth is they are simply wrong. What happened after the Bush tax cuts was accelerated growth of our economy (GDP) and a significant reduction in unemployment (See: Tax Rates, Tax Revenues and the GDP). Higher income earners earned more during the four years after the Bush tax cuts but also disproportionately increased their already disproportionate share of taxes paid.
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