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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    You are correct that we disagree on this. I do not approve of everything he does, but Netanyahu keeps Israel safe. National security in the U.S. is as much a political football as a real issue; in Israel, it is life-and-death on a daily basis.


    They all died as a result of Israeli self-defense versus Hamas - the fault of Hamas, not Israel.

    Killed 2000 because a few Israel’s were attacked. That cartoon is pure propaganda, Netanyahu style and you know it.
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    What you must keep in mind is the fact that Iran foreign policy is rational. Iran is the main shia country and plays a important for forshia majorities or minorities in countries like Irak, Lebanon, Syria, in someEmirates and Yemen, So Iran has interests to defend anyway whatever its political regime may be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    Killed 2000 because a few Israel’s were attacked.
    More than "a few Israelis." And it is not Israel's fault that Hamas hides its weaponry behind children.



    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    That cartoon is pure propaganda, Netanyahu style and you know it.
    It is an accurate reflection of the reporting. Hardly anyone notices when Hamas attacks Israel, and few care. Only when Israel fights back do the complaints come - about Israel, not Hamas. What is it about people that they like Jews/Israel so long as they do not fight back?


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    Quote Originally Posted by galatin View Post
    What you must keep in mind is the fact that Iran foreign policy is rational.
    Like threatening to obliterate Israel. Is that the "rational foreign policy" of which you speak?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    You are right Ian.

    Netanyahu wants the US to attack Iran. He has been trying his best for years. One of the reasons Obama gave him a cold shoulder. Trump and Bolton are dumb enough to do it.
    You are on to something here. WE are joined tightly with Israel, PNAC and AIPAC causes us a lot of pain in the Middle East. Between the USA, Russia, Iran, Isis, Syria and numerous other crazy groups it's a flaming mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Like threatening to obliterate Israel. Is that the "rational foreign policy" of which you speak?
    Not sure, but I know that's Trump's "rational foreign policy" towards North Korea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HadEnough2 View Post
    Not sure, but I know that's Trump's "rational foreign policy" towards North Korea.
    Ah. You speak of 'the Bigger Button Policy'.

    Well, during the campaign, Donald Trump wondered why we couldn't USE our bigger buttons, since we had them. After all, they ARE our biggest and bestest weapons.
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    I assume that Trump torpedoed Obama's Iran deal for the same basic reason that he is undoing every other thing that Obama did in his eight years in office: Because Obama made fun of him at a White House Correspondents' Dinner several years back.

    The Donald does not like it when people make fun of him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    I assume that Trump torpedoed Obama's Iran deal for the same basic reason that he is undoing every other thing that Obama did in his eight years in office: Because Obama made fun of him at a White House Correspondents' Dinner several years back.

    The Donald does not like it when people make fun of him.
    Trump is the biggest snowflake there ever was.

    Nobody else even comes close.
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