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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    It was just RomneyCare, a private sector scheme cooked up by the Heritage Foundation.

    That was the brilliance of Obama's plan. His first proposal was the Republican solution, and the Republicans then had no alternative to offer. We have nowhere to go now but to an even more progressive solution.
    Yup... They were both sides working on the same team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    Yup... They were both sides working on the same team.

    No, they weren't. Obama called their bluff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    What Obama did was make America a one party system.
    Um, no. Republicans started that with the Bush presidency, but Obama did no such thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    America was set up to have checks and balances, he didn't like that so he forced bills thru with no discussion from the GOP.
    The Republicans did not want the bill at all, and in fact opposed anything Obama wanted simply because he wanted it.

    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    The GOP responded with the Tea Party movement....
    No, it did not. The TP movement started before Obama's presidency, and before Obama had a chance to do anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    In Obama's opinion the GOP had no ideas. They didn't want a bill where the government fined people for not participating and Obama did.
    It was not "Obama's opinion." The GOP put no ideas forth - except Obamacare, which was originally a Republican idea. The Republicans wanted no bill at all - on anything, since they opposed anything Obama wanted simply because he wanted it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    No, they weren't. Obama called their bluff.
    Called their bluff and did the exact same plan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    What are you talking about? You just spent half a thread saying America wasn't a great country because a Dem was president and is now because a Rep is president. That's you, the party hack. You're party-over-country and party-over-religion to the core. It's hilarious too. And a little... #SAD.
    Did we have peace in North Korea with any other President then Trump? Did the American Embassy move to Jerusalem under any other President since Trump? the answer is "NO". That's because the other Presidents made promises and didn't keep them, Trump kept his promise

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    It was not "Obama's opinion." The GOP put no ideas forth - except Obamacare, which was originally a Republican idea. The Republicans wanted no bill at all - on anything, since they opposed anything Obama wanted simply because he wanted it.
    Obama didn't listen and what happened? They removed the mandate about a year ago. Obamacare is going to get dismantled eventually , if Democrats would have been willing to have a discussion we wouldn't be in this position of seeing it dismantled. Two party system works best when bother parties work together

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    Did we have peace in North Korea with any other President then Trump? Did the American Embassy move to Jerusalem under any other President since Trump? the answer is "NO". That's because the other Presidents made promises and didn't keep them, Trump kept his promise
    So, now you're saying America was never great? LOL... a few years ago your party-over-country buddies would've called you un-American.

    So now that Trump is President you're finally proud of your country? Huh, sounds like something Michelle Obama said and got raked over the coals for.

    #Hypocrites
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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    Obama didn't listen and what happened? They removed the mandate about a year ago. Obamacare is going to get dismantled eventually , if Democrats would have been willing to have a discussion we wouldn't be in this position of seeing it dismantled.
    None of that makes any sense, since the Republicans opposed the whole thing to begin with. There was nothing to listen to. The Republicans made no statement except that they would oppose any all Obama policies.

    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    Two party system works best when bother parties work together.
    And the Republicans refused to work with Obama and Congressional Democrats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    None of that makes any sense, since the Republicans opposed the whole thing to begin with. There was nothing to listen to. The Republicans made no statement except that they would oppose any all Obama policies.


    And the Republicans refused to work with Obama and Congressional Democrats.
    There are rino's, libertarian republicans, neocons, etc...

    I remember when some right wing groups tried to make a distinction between the rational democrats and the hardcore commie leftists by claiming an alt-left. The effort was decried as a right wing talking point because leftists are Borg like in their unity of though apparently.
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