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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Doesn't matter. As long as we're helping to finance the stalemate, it's Israel's obligation to keep trying. I don't CARE if the chances of success are zero. The cost of making ongoing peace gestures is next-to-nothing, and as long as the efforts aren't putting Israeli civilians at risk, Israel has an obligation to keep trying, indefinitely if need be.

    Israel quit trying a long time ago. They want the land that they captured back in '67. They just don't want the people who live there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Israel quit trying a long time ago. They want the land that they captured back in '67. They just don't want the people who live there.
    They don't live there, they are squatters, kicked out of every Arab country around.

    That's where the nomad ended up because nobody wants them and Israel has to deal with them.

    Its like the whole ME herded the rats into one location and said, "you deal with them".

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    Quote Originally Posted by THOR View Post
    Why does Israel get to be a Jewish state and every Anglo nation has to be multicultural or they are racist?
    Because theyíll kill 50 people and wound 2,000 in a single day to keep it that way. Itís called apartheid. Itís wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Doesn't matter. As long as we're helping to finance the stalemate, it's Israel's obligation to keep trying. I don't CARE if the chances of success are zero. The cost of making ongoing peace gestures is next-to-nothing, and as long as the efforts aren't putting Israeli civilians at risk, Israel has an obligation to keep trying, indefinitely if need be.
    In past administrations the final goal was for Israel to have their capital in Jerusalem - predicated on completing peace talks first so at least Palestine walked away with something to avoid the violence we saw today.

    Obviously Trump has zero use for using any kind of diplomatic process. He just like to goes in a blow things up. Paris Accord, Iran deal, and now this.

    It's going to have serious consequences down the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    It's the only real democracy in the ME and we gain nothing by playing nice with the Arabs.
    Station American troops in Israel, have combined military operations and stop pretending we are neutral brokers.

    Then again, I agreed with Hitler on his love of dogs.
    I don't agree with Trump on Israel, namely moving our embassy to Jerusalem, and I'm more of a cat person, but when the Devil agrees with Hitler, the Devil automatically gets a thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    I think quite a few people agree with this decision. Several presidents prior had as well. I think it might be an difficult decision but long term the correct one. Wont come without major issues but Israel is our ally. That should mean something even though it rarely is anymore.
    Benjamin Netanhayu is no more Israel than Donald Trump is America.

    There is a reason the original US Embassy was placed in Tel Aviv. Just because the US Congress decided to move the Embassy does not mean it was a good decision.

    There was no need to mess with the law as no US President who believed in the peace process and believed that keeping the US E in Tel Aviv kept the possibility of a solution viable.

    Now the PA says the US is out as a negotiator.


    The is a 1990's law to move the US E. Now we need a 2018 law to fund that massive move. A passport office is not an Embassy complex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    Yes, Israel is our ally, but Netanyahu is a jerk. A world-class jerk, too.
    And, that IS the problem. Netanyahu has been pushing the US to fight his war with Iran ever since he came into office. At the rate Trump is going we will.

    68 Palestinians dead. Picking up wounded and bodies while the Princess and her Prince that can not pass a Security Check posture,smile and pose.

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    You might want to read this History of a divided City.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/508243...-vote-us-move/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I disagree.
    His usual MO is to do the wrong thing for all the wrong reasons.
    My comment was in reference to this: "This was all about HIM!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by THOR View Post
    Why does Israel get to be a Jewish state and every Anglo nation has to be multicultural or they are racist?
    Because the Holocaust tried to wipe out Jews.
    You missed that?....it was in all the papers.

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