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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Thats what our local tv news says as well. This kind of thing spreads like wildfire and if the media wants credibility, they have to stop doing this without verifying it. If someone on Facebook can figure it out, surely the media could. But in their rush to be the first they screwed up. Offering again another apology. At some point they have to realize they are becoming fodder for a Trump rally.
    who used the photo against Trump? The first I heard of them when it was being reported that they were during the Obama administration. Although, it's true that the media was forced to report more accurately on immigration issues under previous administration after the images were exposed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    who used the photo against Trump? The first I heard of them when it was being reported that they were during the Obama administration. Although, it's true that the media was forced to report more accurately on immigration issues under previous administration after the images were exposed.
    The photo came from Jon Favreau an Obama speechwriter who should have known better.. Politifact now says Trump was correct.

    Trump correctly tweets that Democrats mistakenly tweeted photo of child migrants being held in 2014 | PolitiFact

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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    who used the photo against Trump? The first I heard of them when it was being reported that they were during the Obama administration. Although, it's true that the media was forced to report more accurately on immigration issues under previous administration after the images were exposed.
    Are you implying the media is taking sides? Favorable coverage for some, damning for others.
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    You mean de-programming?

    I believe we have lost about 30% of the POPULATION till their end days on earth. They can fill out their lives watching FOX, reading Breitbart and WINGERshit that will likely self-perpetuate for their lifetimes. They can scream hatred of government, collect their guns, fend for themselves. They don't need us! They told us so. They don't need institutions, government (though they will TAKE their social security and Medicare--every cent--bet on it) and they'll live out their lives in self-RIGHTEOUS delusional indignation and hope that their wives, kids and grandkids don't divorce or estrange themselves for the rest of those lives.

    We'll move on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by THOR View Post
    Are you implying the media is taking sides? Favorable coverage for some, damning for others.
    Not damning enough!! Amazing how MSM is terrified of calling out CRAZY! The nibble around the edges, but are TERRIFIED to go all in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    you're blaming "the left" for people believing Trump's bald-faced lies? Also, who are you referring to when you say "the left" anyway? People in Canada?
    No, I'm saying the rabid hatred aimed at trump is a major factor in why the trump haters have discredited themselves.

    Btw, Canada has been infected with that same mental illness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    so, we know that they resent being called names. Fair enough. We know that they sent Trump to the WH to shake things up. Fair enough. We know that they don't trust the media. Fair enough. But, just as a for instance, last night during a rally Trump told his supporters that it was a "fact" that the FBI infiltrated his campaign. The reaction of the crowd was to boo. That is not a "fact". It's a bald-faced lie. Yet, the crowd believed it simply because that's what Trump told them. How do candidates for office contend with a voter like that?

    Your thoughts?
    Probably in the same way you would through to an Obama, Bush, Reagan, Hillary Clinton etc.. supporter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slartibartfast View Post
    Probably in the same way you would through to an Obama, Bush, Reagan, Hillary Clinton etc.. supporter.
    what way would that be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Media is partly to blame here. I knew decades ago when they allowed corporations to buy the news, we eventually would pay the price. Well here we are. Instead of giving Trump every second of free coverage during the campaign they should have given others equal time. They never did, it was 24/7 Trump and it still is. Every rally they are there. Then there is the rush to be first with "sources said" or "insiders claim" that often leaves them offering an apology. Look at that photo last weekend of the immigrant kids face down in cages. It was from 2014 and Trump ran with it, citing fake news. So now all over social media they think they are really lying. If you look at polling and stats people have become incredibly mistrusting, from our banks, to big pharma to the real news. Its sad but we could have all seen it coming years before Trump.
    I admit it crept up on me. MSNBC (ironic huh) Scarborough and Mika and Trump were friends, so he called in and got a lot of airtime and then he was thinking about running and got more airtime and then he came down the escalator and he got all the airtime and then he called in all throughout the primaries and he got more airtime and then he got the nomination. Which would for, MOST CANDIDATEs, would be when they got the airtime!

    And HILLARY CLINTON STILL GOT ALMOST 3,000,000 more votes and no RUSSIAN HELP. How much free airtime did she get?

    TRUMP SHOULD HAVE SENT A BASKET OF TRUMP STEAKS TO MIKA AND SCARBOROUGH--at the very least! Instead he made fun of her facelift. Whatta GUY!
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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    so, we know that they resent being called names. Fair enough. We know that they sent Trump to the WH to shake things up. Fair enough. We know that they don't trust the media. Fair enough. But, just as a for instance, last night during a rally Trump told his supporters that it was a "fact" that the FBI infiltrated his campaign. The reaction of the crowd was to boo. That is not a "fact". It's a bald-faced lie. Yet, the crowd believed it simply because that's what Trump told them. How do candidates for office contend with a voter like that?

    Your thoughts?
    I recently learned one of my nieces is a Trumpeter. Not surprisingly, she is also the most rigidly religious family member.

    Asked about her ability to reconcile her avowed loathing of all things sinful and her love of Trump, she points at his desire to appoint a conservative to SCOTUS as her "ends justifies the means" reasoning.

    But I think she's emotionally disturbed, consumed by envy, socially awkward, etc. Trump seems to legitimize her emotional problems as political problems "out there", so she has no pressure to get better.

    Nothing will get this addict off the pipe.

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