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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    They're hopeless.
    Nah.. Your debate muscles just got weak from being able to just scream racist the past 10 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher View Post
    There is a lot of missing information here and that account is incredibly skewed. None of Trump's team has been nailed for Russian Collusion.

    It is now known that the FBI / DoJ had spies in the Trump campaign prior to the Papadopoulos event. Stefan Halper was inserted prior to the Papadopoulos event, which in and of itself is very sketchy for the FBI / DoJ.

    Why didn't they notify the Trump campaign of their issues with Carter Page or Manafort? Nope. They put in a spy and started tapping phones and unmasking Trump campaign staff.

    With the Clinton investigation it was all above the boards. No spies, no wire tapping, no early morning raids, no attacks on staff that they thought were not lying after they bankrupt them with legal attacks.

    The two are very different.
    Odd that major republicans who had the opportunity to look at all the evidence said the FBI did just exactly what they should have done and there were no spies but a rabid trump supporter on a website is convinced there were.

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    #Trumpcult has bought the entire Trump/Fox News driven false narrative, they actually believe that there is a "deep state", and that it is controlled by evil Liberals out to get the God appointed Trump and his holy minions like Pence and Pruitt, that have been busily "draining the swamp" of all of Obamas evil appointees and hires. It is like arguing with the Jonestown followers begging them to not drink the Koolaid and them convinced their Messiah can do no wrong…."the Koolaid will take us directly to heaven"
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    Nah.. Your debate muscles just got weak from being able to just scream racist the past 10 years.
    Not everyone is as gullible and susceptible to crazy conspiracy theories and outright fake narratives as #Trumpcult, it even has devotees from Canada it seems...
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    Our government has an obligation to us to investigate the interference by Russia into our election. In the course of that investigation several members of Trump's campaign have been found to have met with Russians during the campaign and then lied about those meetings to the FBI. Law enforcement has simply done its job and stumbled across all kinds of Trump associates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    One factor that needs to be considered with Ken Starr, how many people were actually guilty on the Republican side as well?

    Yes, from that perspective does look like a witch hunt to get Clinton. The thing is that if people knew the truth about what was going on pretty much everyone would have been gone. So, to appease the people that wanted investigation they started that, and star had to just find a crime that would only implicate Clinton. You can't commit a serious high-level crime without having some form of government help.

    The reason this analogy doesn't work with Trump is that, crimes were committed to try and keep Trump out of the White House. Then those crimes were used as evidence that Trump committed those crimes, which was what sparked the initial investigation in the first place.

    That's why with Trump the purpose was not impeachment, but rather overthrow.

    In other words not an apples-to-apples comparison.
    ...'cept your 'apples to apples' comparison is a convoluted mess. Your post makes no sense to the facts as they are.

    It's like the Canadian version of US history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher View Post
    Do you have any substance to discredit the previous two posts?
    I do, the misinformation you neglected to call,” Spy Gate,” that has been proven false.

    The Fbi’s Job is to check and keep an eye on people who may be breaking our laws.

    They would not be doing what they are responsible if they did not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    Odd that major republicans who had the opportunity to look at all the evidence said the FBI did just exactly what they should have done and there were no spies but a rabid trump supporter on a website is convinced there were.
    Yeah, but those Republicans are Rhino’s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher View Post
    Do you have any substance to discredit the previous two posts?
    Yes, Republican Committee in the Senate who said there was no evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    Lets not forget the most egregious example of the witch hunt. The 9 Benghazi investigations to keep the channel open until a "crime" could be found.

    Benghazi begot Email server.

    Everyone knows the real reason Clinton was under constant investigations...The business model was admitted to.
    And the hacking of the DNC server by Russia was hilarious, not anything to be bothered by.
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