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    Trump’s Blasts Upend G-7, Alienating Oldest Allies

    WASHINGTON — Shortly before leaving the annual meeting of major world powers on Saturday, President Trump boasted that it had been “tremendously successful” and that on a scale of 0 to 10, “the relationship is a 10.” Fewer than nine hours later, the relationship was plummeting toward a zero. With a petulant tweetstorm from Air Force One, Mr. Trump all but blew up the Group of 7 nations that the United States has led for more than four decades and essentially declared open political war on America’s closest neighbor.

    Whatever hopes that other leaders had of pacifying Mr. Trump and papering over their widening differences on trade, security and the world order vanished in a flurry of harsh recriminations. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of Canada rebuffed Mr. Trump’s positions in public comments, prompting Mr. Trump to refuse to sign the carefully crafted final communiqué. The blowup left the United States alienated from its allies even more than it had been entering into the summit meeting and came as Mr. Trump flew to Singapore, earlier than originally scheduled, for a risky meeting with a nuclear-armed American enemy, Kim Jong-un, the repressive leader of North Korea.

    “Trump is readier to give a pass to countries that pose a real threat to Western values and security than to America’s traditional allies,” said Peter Westmacott, a former British ambassador to Washington. “If there is a ‘method to the madness,’ to use the words of British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson, it is currently well hidden.”

    But as the bruising aftermath made clear, the divide, for the moment at least, cannot be bridged by clever diplomacy and cordial talking points. Mr. Trump’s view of the world, and his country’s oldest and most important partners, is so infused by suspicion and grievance that he could not resist his pugilistic impulses even for a day. Mr. Trump was at odds not only with America’s allies but also with many in his own administration. Even as he was clashing with European leaders on Friday about a Russian return to the Group of 7, his director of national intelligence was giving a speech in France condemning Moscow’s malign behavior and warning against allowing it to divide the allies.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/09/w...T.nav=top-news


    He is a TOTAL EMBARRASSMENT to our great country. I'm thinking Gen. Mattis is our only "hope".
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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    WASHINGTON — Shortly before leaving the annual meeting of major world powers on Saturday, President Trump boasted that it had been “tremendously successful” and that on a scale of 0 to 10, “the relationship is a 10.” Fewer than nine hours later, the relationship was plummeting toward a zero. With a petulant tweetstorm from Air Force One, Mr. Trump all but blew up the Group of 7 nations that the United States has led for more than four decades and essentially declared open political war on America’s closest neighbor.

    Whatever hopes that other leaders had of pacifying Mr. Trump and papering over their widening differences on trade, security and the world order vanished in a flurry of harsh recriminations. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of Canada rebuffed Mr. Trump’s positions in public comments, prompting Mr. Trump to refuse to sign the carefully crafted final communiqué. The blowup left the United States alienated from its allies even more than it had been entering into the summit meeting and came as Mr. Trump flew to Singapore, earlier than originally scheduled, for a risky meeting with a nuclear-armed American enemy, Kim Jong-un, the repressive leader of North Korea.

    “Trump is readier to give a pass to countries that pose a real threat to Western values and security than to America’s traditional allies,” said Peter Westmacott, a former British ambassador to Washington. “If there is a ‘method to the madness,’ to use the words of British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson, it is currently well hidden.”

    But as the bruising aftermath made clear, the divide, for the moment at least, cannot be bridged by clever diplomacy and cordial talking points. Mr. Trump’s view of the world, and his country’s oldest and most important partners, is so infused by suspicion and grievance that he could not resist his pugilistic impulses even for a day. Mr. Trump was at odds not only with America’s allies but also with many in his own administration. Even as he was clashing with European leaders on Friday about a Russian return to the Group of 7, his director of national intelligence was giving a speech in France condemning Moscow’s malign behavior and warning against allowing it to divide the allies.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/09/w...T.nav=top-news


    He is a TOTAL EMBARRASSMENT to our great country. I'm thinking Gen. Mattis is our only "hope".
    Be very careful with that. I thought General Kelly was our only hope. Boy howdy, was I wrong. What a fucking asshole.

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    I knew Trump would attend this meeting and be a ass. He will show his ass at the Kim Jong meeting as well.
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    I knew Trump would attend this meeting and be a ass. He will show his ass at the Kim Jong meeting as well.
    Hard to decide which time the price will be higher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Hard to decide which time the price will be higher.
    I remember when everyone was complaining he was golfing too much...I wish he spent all of the next 2.5 years on the golf course. It is money well spent to keep his dumb ass from embarrassing the Country.
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    Donald Trump is doing the work of Vladimir Putin, and Vladimir could not be more delighted. His investment in meddling in the American election of 2016 is paying off handsomely, and probably even more so than Mr. Putin expected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    WASHINGTON — Shortly before leaving the annual meeting of major world powers on Saturday, President Trump boasted that it had been “tremendously successful” and that on a scale of 0 to 10, “the relationship is a 10.” Fewer than nine hours later, the relationship was plummeting toward a zero. With a petulant tweetstorm from Air Force One, Mr. Trump all but blew up the Group of 7 nations that the United States has led for more than four decades and essentially declared open political war on America’s closest neighbor.

    Whatever hopes that other leaders had of pacifying Mr. Trump and papering over their widening differences on trade, security and the world order vanished in a flurry of harsh recriminations. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of Canada rebuffed Mr. Trump’s positions in public comments, prompting Mr. Trump to refuse to sign the carefully crafted final communiqué. The blowup left the United States alienated from its allies even more than it had been entering into the summit meeting and came as Mr. Trump flew to Singapore, earlier than originally scheduled, for a risky meeting with a nuclear-armed American enemy, Kim Jong-un, the repressive leader of North Korea.

    “Trump is readier to give a pass to countries that pose a real threat to Western values and security than to America’s traditional allies,” said Peter Westmacott, a former British ambassador to Washington. “If there is a ‘method to the madness,’ to use the words of British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson, it is currently well hidden.”

    But as the bruising aftermath made clear, the divide, for the moment at least, cannot be bridged by clever diplomacy and cordial talking points. Mr. Trump’s view of the world, and his country’s oldest and most important partners, is so infused by suspicion and grievance that he could not resist his pugilistic impulses even for a day. Mr. Trump was at odds not only with America’s allies but also with many in his own administration. Even as he was clashing with European leaders on Friday about a Russian return to the Group of 7, his director of national intelligence was giving a speech in France condemning Moscow’s malign behavior and warning against allowing it to divide the allies.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/09/w...T.nav=top-news


    He is a TOTAL EMBARRASSMENT to our great country. I'm thinking Gen. Mattis is our only "hope".
    I think Robert Mueller may be our last best hope.
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    Actually, with Trumps good behaviour at the meetings, and since someone posted the picture of the G7 with Bolton standing over Trumps shoulder, I’m starting to wonder if Bolton got a hold of Trunps phone on the plane.

    Trumps just now seeing the tweets. “What the...?”

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    Donald Trump is doing the work of Vladimir Putin, and Vladimir could not be more delighted. His investment in meddling in the American election of 2016 is paying off handsomely, and probably even more so than Mr. Putin expected.
    Yes, notice that Putin has already chimed in and said he is ready to visit Trump when America is ready. Considering the acrimony Trump has created with our long time allies and his constant coziness with Putin and Russia, it sounds like a rehearsed scenario that was supposed to go one way, but likely has gone the opposite way and Putin is right on cue for his part.

    Imagine a scenario where the intention was to piss off all old allies by doing a number of things, one of which is to make motions toward opening a trade war, the other, work to reinstate Russia in the talks, knowing Russia has tried to interfere in the elections of several countries, not just the U.S........Then make sure the meeting ends with a separation of the U.S. from its allies (even if a tentative agreement was reached - find some excuse to pull out of the agreement) ........ Then hope that the same population that elected Trump and support him, direct their anger at our old allies, not Trump........In their dissatisfaction, Trump's role will be to "introduce" an alternative trading partner......A nation led, by none other, than Vladimir Putin.


    The question is, will most of America go with a Trump Putin partnership or will they reject it?





    As a side note, anyone remember how Trump and the Trumpians characterized the CNN reporter's question regarding animus at the summit?

    Trump Dismisses 'Fake News CNN' Reporter's Question During G7 Summit Briefing | Fox News Insider

    Being in a Foreign Country Didn't Stop President Trump From Slamming 'Fake News' CNN
    Watch Trump Blast 'Fake News' CNN at the G7 Summit | Fortune





    Is there anything that ISN'T great, according to Trump, even as it is crumbling behind the facade of "I'M GREAT, everything's great, they all love me, nobody does it better than me"? Hasn't America yet caught on to that constant line and lie, even if the people of other nations had, before Trump was even elected? Most of the people of NYC, Trump's hometown, sure as hell were sick of it.


    BTW what was the top marginal tax rate when the interstate highway system was built?

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...r-eisenhower-/
    Last edited by KnotaFrayed; 10th June 2018 at 07:06 AM.
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