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    Quote Originally Posted by Frecks1710 View Post
    Here once again is another reason you have been such s good friend. Here you are encouraging me to fully express myself and now you are showing calm towards a very touch topic. You hit the nail on the head when you said don’t attack. More importantly, to use my sincere revelations towards a constructive end. That is using your rational talents rather than attacking, further alienating. Thank you my friend.
    Stay vigilant.

    He may just be trying to pull you to the dark side.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher View Post
    Welcome to the free thinking, open minded, Independent Party that so many Americans have joined. I think there are more Independents than Republicans or Democrats (not combined).
    Your party....the Trump/Putin/GOP... is an un-American criminal enterprise that will hopefully be crushed in the midterms.

    We'll see on November 6th.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    You're welcome and I don't think PH has a more vociferous Trump hater than me but my interest is turning the table on Trump and his ilk in the GOP. In order to do that we have to welcome back and encourage former Democrats with reasons why they should return to us.

    Squabbling doesn't help!
    nor, for that matter, demeaning and insulting comments about Trump and the GOP. such things simply stir up a defensive posture. find a platform that appeals to all the citizens and improves the lives of every American - rich, poor or in between.
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    No, that is completely wrong. If we follow that same logic, then by voting 3rd party or writing in your own candidate, that means you didn't vote for trump. So following the same logic, that would equal a vote for hillary.
    But you don't get to bestow these mystical powers on other peoples votes. You can only do that with your own vote.

    When there are only two candidates who have a snowball's chance in hell of winning the election (which applies to every US presidential election), then casting a vote for a third party candidate is exactly as effective as is not voting at all. No, you didn't vote for Trump. You effectively cast a half vote for both candidates. Only if you consider the two candidates to be perfectly equal does that strategy make sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bonehead View Post
    nor, for that matter, demeaning and insulting comments about Trump and the GOP.
    It is impossible to be to insulting and demeaning to Trump and his GOP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonehead View Post
    nor, for that matter, demeaning and insulting comments about Trump and the GOP. such things simply stir up a defensive posture. find a platform that appeals to all the citizens and improves the lives of every American - rich, poor or in between.
    I think too in this oddball social media rules world, candidates need far more of that appeal than before. Bill Clinton and Obama were youthful, energetic well liked candidates and could grab votes anywhere. Trump was able to do the rally thing and tweeting which grabbed a lot of attention and garnered him votes with his bumper sticker slogans. Any new candidates after Trump are going to need to be even more charismatic and social media savvy. Likeability will probably be a bigger factor than before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Likeability will probably be a bigger factor than before.
    Hopefully not.
    Real substance and character should be the main factor.
    When I vote for a Prez I'm not looking for a buddy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    I think too in this oddball social media rules world, candidates need far more of that appeal than before. Bill Clinton and Obama were youthful, energetic well liked candidates and could grab votes anywhere. Trump was able to do the rally thing and tweeting which grabbed a lot of attention and garnered him votes with his bumper sticker slogans. Any new candidates after Trump are going to need to be even more charismatic and social media savvy. Likeability will probably be a bigger factor than before.
    correct. as well, a view of the geopolitical world is very important. we are not, nor can we, live in an insulated bubble in today's world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher View Post
    Over 60,000,000 Americans did and millions of them were not Republicans.
    Holy fuck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Hopefully not.
    Real substance and character should be the main factor.
    When I vote for a Prez I'm not looking for a buddy.
    Same for me, but I think with so many people getting all their news from social media now, likeability will be of utmost importance. If someone comes out all smart and wonky and not media savvy they will be in trouble.
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