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Thread: Caged children, lost allies, neo-Nazis: What Trump supporters have done to America

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    OK, thanks to you, too.

    At least you are willing to discuss it.

    As opposed to some who think censorship is the answer.
    I never report anyone over an opinion in a public debate that requires opposing opinions no matter how much I may hate that opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    Not the definition of torture.
    From the same party that says waterboarding is not torture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minotaur View Post
    I never report anyone over an opinion in a public debate that requires opposing opinions no matter how much I may hate that opinion.
    Some people would, and have.

    That's why I complimented you.

    I always think it's better to debate a person you disagree with than to censor them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    From the same party that says waterboarding is not torture.
    And some lawyers agreed with that opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minotaur View Post
    Bullshit. One dimensional usage for one category is meaningless to this conversation.

    Torture: to cause great physical or mental pain to someone intentionally:
    18 U.S.C. 2340
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    And some lawyers agreed with that opinion.
    Actually, they mostly just justified why the government is exempt from the law forbidding torture when it concerns "national security."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    Tearing babies from their parents arms is a form of torture to anyone with a soul.
    It is absolutely sadistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    Yes, he was the anti-politician.

    America looked at Trump and Hillary and elected Trump.

    A decent Dem, even a HALF DECENT Dem would have beaten him easily.

    America said "No Thanks" to Obamas third term...
    Once again, almost 3 million more voters choose Hillary over trump. The electoral college system put the orange one in the white house, not human voters. (twenty states have a population under 3 million, but their votes were weighted more than votes in California, New York, and Texas)
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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    Once again, almost 3 million voters choose Hillary over trump. The electoral college system put the orange one in the white house, not human voters. (twenty states have a population under 3 million, but their votes were weighted more than votes in California, New York, and Texas)
    It's why Trump supporters are such sore winners. They know he barely got in and they feel very insecure about it. They know most of the country disagrees with them and think Trump is an abomination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    It's why Trump supporters are such sore winners. They know he barely got in and they feel very insecure about it. They know most of the country disagrees with them and think Trump is an abomination.
    While thats all true, one does have to give some credit to the RNC for playing the electoral game. Even today they focus on certain states because they know it can help them win. 15 or so states are a waste of time so they dont waste resources there. But the others are open and they fight for them. Trump went in and campaigned in these areas and right wing media focused on their races. I cringed when I heard on commentator say something about how democrats have the edge nationally so the electoral college didnt matter. It matters and it will get worse. While dem numbers will surge nationally, we will also have 30 states where population is older and whiter over the next 20 years. They need to pay attention and either find another Obama like candidate who is universally likeable or focus more on these other states and less on social issues.

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