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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    Once again, almost 3 million voters choose Hillary over trump. The electoral college system put the orange one in the white house, not human voters. (twenty states have a population under 3 million, but their votes were weighted more than votes in California, New York, and Texas)
    Well congrats on getting the number right.

    For a long time, we kept hearing how she won by 3 million votes.

    That lie is finally fading out.

    But as far the vote that REALLY counts, the Electoral College vote, it was a LANDSLIDE victory for Trump.

    Or a LANDSLIDE defeat for Hillary, if you prefer.

    One of these days Hillary may figure out why "They were never going to let me be president".

    And, who "They" were...

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    Trump supporters will never realize, understand or accept the damage they’ve done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    I'm not joking.

    Saying that we are "torturing immigrant children" is as crazy as saying our American members saying "Trump will never be my president".

    (He already is)

    Or "Thousand of innocent children are being slaughtered in our Schools each year".

    (They aren't)

    People say all kinds of crazy stuff on this forum, but that doesn't make them true.
    The legal definition of torture includes mental suffering.

    These experiences increase the risk of mental health conditions such as depression and anxiety, which is exacerbated by the uncertainty and harsh conditions of detention. Stressors accumulate to cause mental distress; the more stress we add, the more we compound the problem.

    Immigration detention can have life-long impacts on children’s mental and physical health. The Australian Human Rights Commission report, The Forgotten Children: National Inquiry into Children in Immigration Detention, released last week, found one-third of children in immigration detention centres have a mental health disorder that requires psychiatric support.

    If these children are supported and protected from further stress, they are more likely to improve their mental well-being and achieve their potential.

    Chronic stress
    When the brain is chronically exposed to stress, it produces hormones that make it more reactive: the “fight response”. People are more likely to be nervous, to respond without thinking and to be frightened a lot of the time. In this fight mode, it’s difficult to concentrate, plan for the future and sleep.

    Children exposed to these cumulative stressors for long periods of time become less able to learn, more difficult to settle and console...

    https://theconversation.com/detained...tal-harm-37510
    We are creating future risks, not only for the children, but for the society they live in as adults, just like our policy created the ethnic gangs trump rails against.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    Well congrats on getting the number right.

    For a long time, we kept hearing how she won by 3 million votes.

    That lie is finally fading out.

    But as far the vote that REALLY counts, the Electoral College vote, it was a LANDSLIDE victory for Trump.

    Or a LANDSLIDE defeat for Hillary, if you prefer.

    One of these days Hillary may figure out why "They were never going to let me be president".

    And, who "They" were...
    The "they" is republicans, and she is probably correct. I have not the slightest doubt that had she won, republicans would do everything in their power to see that her presidency was ineffective at best, and terminated early at worst.

    Hillary got 2,868,686 more votes than trump. That is 131,314 votes less than 3 million. To simplify, and say hillary won by 3 million votes isnt a lie, it is called rounding numbers.

    What is "Rounding" ?
    Rounding means making a number simpler but keeping its value close to what it was.

    https://www.mathsisfun.com/rounding-numbers.html
    Here is how it works:

    To "round to the nearest," look at the digit to the immediate right of the digit you will round to, and

    If the digit to the right of your rounding digit is a five or greater (5 through 9), round up (add 1 to the digit you are rounding and drop all the digits to the right, replacing them with zeros);

    If the digit to the right of your rounding digit is less than 5 (0 through 4), round down (drop all digits to the right of the digit you are rounding, replacing them with zeros).

    http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/..._rounding.html
    Certainly rounding is not something one would use when officially counting votes, however it is perfectly appropriate to use in a discussion on an internet forum.

    Please stop accusing those using 3 million rather than the official 2,868,686, of lying. That, itself, is a lie. Here's hoping it will not be necessary to explain this to you again.

    (most of us learned about "rounding" in elementary school)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    But as far the vote that REALLY counts, the Electoral College vote, it was a LANDSLIDE victory for Trump.

    Or a LANDSLIDE defeat for Hillary, if you prefer.
    It was not a "landslide." Reagan got landslides. If Trump's EC win was a landslide, then so were both of Obama's elections, which were wins by rather larger margins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    We know this is going on but Trump supporters will either say it's fake news or that everybody does it. The fact is, no one has done it on this level. I will never forgive the Republicans who are enabling him and his corrupt family.
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    Well, I'm just glad that Donald got rid of North Korea's nuclear weapons, so we can finally stop huddling in fear of Lil' Kim. With North Korea and Russia on our side, all we need to do now is to win the trade wars with our enemies in Canada and Europe, and then we can start building hotels.

    Honestly, this much winning is making me sick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minotaur View Post
    If you are one of the Trump supporters don't be too smug. There are some things that can be fixed like SCOTUS if the current justices can hang on until we boot Trump and your republican Congress. The federal judges across the country that Trump appointed can then be stopped from creating Constitutional crisis issues like taking rights and equality away. You will know what too far means when you push Americans too far. Witness your real situation by reading the entire article. There is a price to pay for Trump destroying America...

    "What else? Oh yes, the American president declared Canada, the EU, and Mexico to all be “national security” threats meriting tariffs on the metals they import into America. He justified this, in a phone call with Trudeau, by asserting (wrongly) that Canadians burned down the White House in 1812. He personally insulted the Canadian and French leaders in a Twitter barrage before the G7 meeting in Quebec, and destroyed all semblance of civility in an extraordinary onslaught against Trudeau after leaving the meeting early for Singapore. And he pointedly refused to stay to participate in the discussions on global warming and protecting the environment.

    Meanwhile, he went out of his way to flatter Kim Jong-Un; stated that he wanted Russia (currently under U.S. sanctions for meddling in the U.S. election and for annexing Crimea) readmitted to the G7; and bent over backwards to ease the economic sanctions against a Chinese technology company that his own administration has acknowledged is stealing American intellectual property.

    Of course, a week in Trumpland wouldn’t be complete without more truly insane domestic actions. too. Witness the Justice Department’s recent decision not to defend the constitutionality of the parts of the Affordable Care Act that prevent insurance companies either denying coverage to sick people or forcing them to pay vastly more for their coverage. Having failed repeatedly to gut the ACA through legislation, Republicans have now simply decided to gut it via executive fiat, turning their backs on millions of particularly vulnerable Americans who finally, under the ACA, were able to access affordable health coverage.

    That Trump and Sessions feel empowered to fundamentally reshape the American health system using a legal sleight of hand ought not to be a surprise. After all, Trump-the-would-be-king has announced that he has the “absolute right” to pardon himself and anyone else for any and all crimes; and his attorney, Rudy Giuliani, has declared that the president isn’t indict-able for any crimes, asserting that Trump could have shot Comey in the Oval Office and still be immune from prosecution.

    In the new Trump-reality, the president can do anything and not be charged with a crime; and can order his minions to do anything, secure in the knowledge that even if they are charged their boss will then pardon them. Such a legal theory could allow for, say, state-sanctioned death squads, torture, wholesale embezzlement of state funds, the imprisonment of political enemies and so on.



    None of this is the stuff of democracy. Those who defend it all, simply for party-political advantage, shame on you.

    You are turning America into a global pariah state. You are shredding the culture of democracy. You are undermining multinational institutions.

    And you are normalizing extremism and irrationalism and cruelty as governing principles. Shame. Shame. Shame."



    Trump cages children, betrays allies, serves Putin. Where's our shame? | The Sacramento Bee
    Oh, just like the good ole days!
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