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    Quote Originally Posted by BitterPill View Post
    Who the fuck argues that?
    It's a common claim, that Chicago is safer than many other cities or states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    Candidate Donald J. Trump thought it was such a problem, he promised to fix it.

    Of course that was when he was a candidate...free to lie as need be.

    Today, Trump's fix-it-day-one promises are as faint as the furthest 1000th Point of Light.
    Chicago is run by leftie democrats...they don't want help. It's good in the hood as far as they are concerned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    102 shot, 15 fatally, in Chicago over July 4 holiday weekend



    Why?

    Is all of Chicago a war zone, or just certain places?

    What should be done about this?
    Wasnt trump going to fix that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    What to do about it?

    Seems that it would take the national guard... I thought Chicago was supposed to be a gun free zone?
    No guards at the border to search, and confiscate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    Gotta give Obama some of the credit.

    After all, he was a "community organizer" there.

    Just think how bad it would be if he HADN'T fixed all their problems...
    Did obama promise to fix it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by THOR View Post
    Stay away from Chicago, it's a failed society. It's on a death spiral.
    Hmmm....Trump said in his Inauguration Speech that "this carnage will stop right here, right now."

    So what's the problem?

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    As to the OP...lets everyone chew on this for a bit...once again, not very appealing to the left but it is factually indisputable.

    Here are the top 20 cities with the highest gun murder rates in the U.S. per capita. Of these, every city except the last one, Tulsa, has a Democrat majority in the mayoralty and City Council or Board of Aldermen.

    Here are the non-fatal shootings top 20 per capita. Notice the overlap of several cities; the cities on the non-fatal list absent on the murder list are also Democrat-run cities, except for the last one, Jacksonville.

    Here's a sampling of five longtime Democrat empires (all days are consecutive and uninterrupted). All appear in the top 20 lists:

    1. St. Louis: only Democrat mayors; 90% Democrat City Council; 15,000 days.

    2. Baltimore: only Democrat mayors and only Democrat City Council; 18,000 days.

    3. Philadelphia: only Democrat mayors; 90% Democrat City Council; 20,000 days.

    4. Detroit: only Democrat mayors; 90% Democrat City Council; 22,000 days.

    5. Chicago: only Democrat mayors; 90% Democrat City Council; 30,000 days.

    The Democrats have ruled Chicago for longer than Stalin ruled the USSR, the Castros in Cuba, and the Kims in North Korea, and for longer than slavery was legal in the U.S.

    Exhausted yet? There's more.

    These are America's top 10 most violent cities, according to FBI data. Violent crimes include homicides, gun violence, gangs, pedophilia, and robberies.

    Every city is majority Democrat-controlled. Several of the cities on the FBI's list also appear on the aforementioned murder and non-fatal shootings lists. Because the FBI's ranking is per capita, several cities such as Chicago and Newark (only Democrat mayors; 90% City Council; 23,000 days) are absent.

    Still with me? St. Louis, Baltimore, Detroit, and New Orleans crack the top 50 for most dangerous cities on the planet. New Orleans has elected only Democrat mayors for the last 55,000 consecutive days; the United States as a nation has existed for 88,000 days. New Orleans's city council is, in theory, nonpartisan; I'll let you conclude how nonpartisan it is.

    As a side note on Chicago: A report last year estimated that 60% of guns recovered in Chicago came from out of state, with 20% traced back to Indiana and others from Wisconsin. Though difficult to determine from where exactly, in each state, the guns originated, I believe it's reasonable to speculate that they came not from rural areas, but from the big cities, such as Indianapolis and Milwaukee (run, of course, by...drum roll...Democrats). What, you thought Wisconsin and Indiana were red states? Red states are dead; only blue and pur-blue exist.

    Stats don't lie; Democrats do

    Democrats sell local gun crime epidemics as national gun crime epidemics. And listen: their sales pitch is effective. I rarely hear Republicans, conservatives, or even the NRA effectively combat this pitch. Data is mixed, depending on the study, but since the '90s, gun violence and homicides nationally have declined. But not in Democrat-controlled cities.

    Also, Democrats always pad the stat sheet by mixing in gun-related deaths from suicide and suspects shot and killed by police officers.
    https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...cities_do.html

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    So far, we have it's Trump's fault, it's Obama's fault, and it's the Democrat's fault, that latter with supporting text from the American Thinker.

    I submit it is not a partisan issue.
    Clearly, this problem has persisted through several changes of administration from R to D and back.
    Clearly, Chicago is not a "gun free zone," as that would be unconstitutional. Remember Heller v DC?
    Clearly, gun control laws don't help when the guns are in the hands of the lawless.
    What we're seeing is a breakdown in civilization, back to the days when tribes fought each other for territory.
    and now, they're calling the territory "turf," which translates as "this is our place to sell illegal drugs."

    Any ideas now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    So far, we have it's Trump's fault, it's Obama's fault, and it's the Democrat's fault, that latter with supporting text from the American Thinker.

    I submit it is not a partisan issue.
    Clearly, this problem has persisted through several changes of administration from R to D and back.
    Clearly, Chicago is not a "gun free zone," as that would be unconstitutional. Remember Heller v DC?
    Clearly, gun control laws don't help when the guns are in the hands of the lawless.
    What we're seeing is a breakdown in civilization, back to the days when tribes fought each other for territory.
    and now, they're calling the territory "turf," which translates as "this is our place to sell illegal drugs."

    Any ideas now?
    Ok, to be more precise; my understanding was that in Chicago you could only get a permit for a gun under very strict circumstance to where it is for ALL intentions impossible legally. So, if you are rich, connected to government, and you suck off a few judges they might up the odds to allow you to defend yourself. Not a ban but might as well be.

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