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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    But he talked funny, what with all those thee and thou, couldst and shouldst and behold words he liked to use.
    Mayhaps we could avoid all these unpleasant difficulties that thee couldst run into, by rewriting the Holy Bible in a New King Donald version for the 21st Century American reader. And Behold! Thou shouldst be able to understand it, even with the literacy of a 2nd grader!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Now this I agree. There are certainly dates we should know by heart, but not all. I mean around here teachers get all hung up on the date the first New Englander was killed in the Revolutionary war or what date was Paul Revere's ride. Kids need to know when this happened generally but such picky stuff I dont agree. Its a waste when these kids never heard of the Holocaust.
    "On the 18th of April, in '75...hardly a man is now alive who remembers that famous day and year."

    (I also memorized The Midnight Ride of Paul Revere -- in its entirety -- in 5th Grade for our poetry unit. Yep. I'm a dork.)
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    "If you can speak three languages you're trilingual. If you can speak two languages you're bilingual. If you can speak only one language you're an American."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderer View Post
    "On the 18th of April, in '75...hardly a man is now alive who remembers that famous day and year."

    (I also memorized The Midnight Ride of Paul Revere -- in its entirety -- in 5th Grade for our poetry unit. Yep. I'm a dork.)
    I had a teacher who used to try to make us mesmerize arithmetic equations in our heads. Not just simple ones but like 15 x 17 type stuff. She had a real bug about it too. I look back on that and think what else we could have been learning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    I know its really changing education. I see some older teachers still asking them to remember dates and such and I think its a waste of sorts. Anything that can easily be looked up nowadays is a waste of an education. So much else to learn nowadays. I remember one teacher I had and every now and then the entire test would be dates! Ugh!
    We are in the process of reviewing our test bank at the HS. Some of the older instructors are fighting our changes. For example, our focus is on job training, period. The Health Academy offers a couple of tracks...the most popular State Tested Nursing Assistants. Some of the older tests are loaded with dates, such as the date, year and name of the person who invented the stethoscope. Who cares and how will this knowledge assist them in measuring a patients blood pressure? I would rather the test questions focus on how to take the measurement, identify abnormalities and when to report to the Nurse that something is wrong. I use more case studies as assessments these days which requires the student to think and articulate their assessment. They can consult their tablets to form their responses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Now this I agree. There are certainly dates we should know by heart, but not all. I mean around here teachers get all hung up on the date the first New Englander was killed in the Revolutionary war or what date was Paul Revere's ride. Kids need to know when this happened generally but such picky stuff I dont agree. Its a waste when these kids never heard of the Holocaust.
    I was always very good with dates in history, and still am. And I know that some teachers overdo dates. I saw your post about a history test that was nothing BUT dates. I can understand why students would dread a test or quiz like that. But still, if you cannot arrange events in some chronological ORDER, you are going to have a DEFECTIVE understanding of history! If you don't know that Julius Caesar comes before Charlemagne, for example, your understanding of the history of Western Civilization is just going to be GARBLED. No, I don't think you need to know the year that Julius Caesar was assassinated, but if you think Columbus sailed the ocean blue in nineteen hundred and forty-two, you've got problems!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by publius3 View Post
    Very true, google translate is actually very, very good now. I speak English and Spanish natively and German. Honestly, if I had to repeat German, I wouldn't do it. I would spend the time learning something else and not the least of which is fact I have met maybe a handful of Germans who can't speak English. Americans are lucky that the lingua franca of international business is English. Learning language #2 just isn't an imperative in most circumstances.
    I understand it's a matter priorities and it isn't absolutely necessary for Americans to know any other language since it's the language of both business and diplomacy, but why do some Americans demand EVERYONE speak only English in this country?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Now this I agree. There are certainly dates we should know by heart, but not all. I mean around here teachers get all hung up on the date the first New Englander was killed in the Revolutionary war or what date was Paul Revere's ride. Kids need to know when this happened generally but such picky stuff I dont agree. Its a waste when these kids never heard of the Holocaust.
    I believe in multiple intelligence when it comes to students. Just because a student cannot remember dates in history by no means makes them dumb. They may simply be uninterested. The important dates, sure, but not all of them. Knowing the dates of the civil war will not enable them to succeed in a career unless they are college Professors. When I was in HS and College, those classes were nothing but droning dirge to me.. Accounting, leadership classes, etc....those were the classes that turned me on because I was majoring in Business at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    Someone has to program and maintain those robotic order takers at McDonalds.
    Well whoever came up with the kiosk format is an idiot. I experienced my first one on vacation in Fitchburg (or was it Leominster?) Massachuetts. Everything was going fine until it asked me if I wanted to customize my order. There was no Yes or No response available! I stood there puzzled for at least 30 seconds. I even asked for help on the Kiosk but no one came. Finally a customer must have noticed my befuddlement and said, "Oh I finally figured out you just scroll to the next page and it gives you your total." WTF?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    I understand it's a matter priorities and it isn't absolutely necessary for Americans to know any other language since it's the language of both business and diplomacy, but why do some Americans demand EVERYONE speak only English in this country?
    Our geography has been both a blessing and a curse at times.
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