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    Should Mail Voting Be Abolished ? Citizenship Proof Required ?

    These are the 2 questions of this OP. I find it quite amazing that Republicans who are running for some political office in November are not up in arms over voting methodology. As it appears right now, ANYBODY in the world could vote in the 2018 election, whether they are a citizen of the USA or not.

    Frankly, what is there to stop them ? 20 states don't even require ID at all. Many more don't require a photo ID, and even the ones that require a photo ID, so what ? Millions of illegal aliens have employee photo IDs. They probably have other photo IDs too. None of these show proof of eligibility to vote, by being a US citizen.

    This crazy situation is undoubtedly one of the reasons why Hillary Clinton got a relatively high popular vote score, especially in California, where illegals are in large numbers. I'm guessing her AMERICAN vote score was far below Trump's. Shouldn't there be a way to check citizenship to keep our voting system honest and credible ?

    As for mail voting, this is just about the opposite of a secure voting system. It has the least verification of all. Illegal aliens could be deported to let's say Mexico, and then still vote from there, even after being deported. All they need to do is bring the ballot to Mexico with them, fill it out there, and mail it to a relative in Texas or Arizona, and have them send it in. Since you can bet that 95% of those votes would go to Democrats, why are Republicans being so lackadaisical on this, if they're are even doing any thing about it at all ?
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    I can't remember registering to vote originally. When we moved a couple of years ago I re-registered online, but I'm in the state where I originally got my drivers license. What is required to register for the first time or when you move to another state?

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    I can not vote by mail unless I am on my county's voter rolls. I can not get on my county's voter rolls unless I register to vote. I can not register to vote unless I do so where my ID can be checked. Either at the DMV or at my county clerk's office.

    What is your problem?

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    ...ANYBODY in the world could vote in the 2018 election, whether they are a citizen of the USA or not.
    Really? I find that a little hyperbolic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    I can't remember registering to vote originally. When we moved a couple of years ago I re-registered online, but I'm in the state where I originally got my drivers license. What is required to register for the first time or when you move to another state?
    I think it all depends on the state. Here we need a proof of identification, and address. Then since we have no voter cards, we need to show photo ID to cast a ballot.

    https://www.manchesternh.gov/Departm...ow-to-Register
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    We dont have vote by mail here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    I can not vote by mail unless I am on my county's voter rolls. I can not get on my county's voter rolls unless I register to vote. I can not register to vote unless I do so where my ID can be checked. Either at the DMV or at my county clerk's office.

    What is your problem?

    It's always been redundant to require an ID at someone's polling place. You can't vote if your name isn't on the registry. Your name can't be on the registry unless you registered to vote. You can't register to vote without valid ID. Once you have voted, your name is checked off of the registry, so you can't vote twice -- nor can anyone else vote in your name.

    Voter ID laws are intended to make it more difficult to vote, just as voter tests and poll taxes were intended for that same purpose back in the Jim Crow era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    I can not vote by mail unless I am on my county's voter rolls. I can not get on my county's voter rolls unless I register to vote. I can not register to vote unless I do so where my ID can be checked. Either at the DMV or at my county clerk's office.

    What is your problem?
    Yeah, I'm trying to figure out how undocumenteds or foreigners can vote in any kind of numbers. Hence my question above.

    When you go to your polling place they ask for your name and if your name is on the list then you vote. I've also voted by mail and I just give my name and address and they send me a ballot. Now, if I show up and someone has already voted using my name I will scream bloody murder and so would anyone else. How do people who are not citizens vote in any numbers that could make a difference without a whole bunch of people noticing? I've never been able to figure that out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    We dont have vote by mail here.

    No absentee voting? That was the original vote by mail scheme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    I can't remember registering to vote originally. When we moved a couple of years ago I re-registered online, but I'm in the state where I originally got my drivers license. What is required to register for the first time or when you move to another state?
    I've always been auto registered when I got my new license in that state. I never had to do anything.
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