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    Quote Originally Posted by rwb72 View Post
    We need him because before he came along, nobody was even taking about China, Mexico, et al beating the crap out of us, while we stood around and said "Thank you". Does that answer the question ?
    You believe China and Mexico are beating the hell out of us because Donald Trump told you so.

    He sells you the problem to sell you the cure.

    US Companies go into China eyes wide open and know how the game is rigged, but the potential profits are so high to be in the Chinese market, US firms put up with China getting at their trade secrets or technology.

    US corporations complain but short of not doing business in China there is no US Government remedy. Trump has not offered any remedy other that to say there needs to be one. Great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rwb72 View Post
    If they hadn't been sitting on their worthless asses so long and doing nothing about the unfair trade balances we've been bludgoened with for so long, your post might be wrong. As it is, every word you said is exactly right. They SHOULD be fired.

    I always wondered how long is it going to be before somebody cones along as says "Why the hell are we giving the world unrestricted access to our market ?"

    I never thought it was going to take 30 years. Senate has a comfort zone > clinging to stupidity.
    How truly sad that you don't understand that Donald Trump's OWN policies are making the trade deficit WORSE! The trade deficit which, by the way, is at its highest level in more than a decade, BEFORE Barack Obama became President....

    Tax Cut To Widen Trade Gap That Riles Trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    You believe China and Mexico are beating the hell out of us because Donald Trump told you so.

    He sells you the problem to sell you the cure.

    US Companies go into China eyes wide open and know how the game is rigged, but the potential profits are so high to be in the Chinese market, US firms put up with China getting at their trade secrets or technology.

    US corporations complain but short of not doing business in China there is no US Government remedy. Trump has not offered any remedy other that to say there needs to be one. Great.
    I must initially admit that I am no expert in international trade, so my comments are strictly those of a layperson and personal observation. I do know that there has be a bit of rhetoric regarding the big bad corporations out sourcing jobs for cheap labor. Personally, I think they do so to respond to the demand of consumers for cheap consumer goods. It was my perspective that the purpose of tariffs was to fight fire with fire, so to speak, in response to tariffs placed on our products and to make domestic goods more price competitive with foreign made goods. Again, I freely admit that my perspective may have been a bit naive regarding international trade. If I am naive, I have no idea how to see more goods with the tag "Made in the USA" as opposed to "Made in China".

    As far as the Senate action goes, perhaps, it is an indicator that Mr. Trump may not be the Republican nominee in 2020.
    Last edited by TheWahoo; 13th July 2018 at 08:55 AM.

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