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    The handwritten notes exposing what Fusion GPS told DOJ about Trump

    Unraveling faster than a ball of twine in a cat's paw.



    The handwritten notes exposing what Fusion GPS told DOJ about Trump



    A memory stick quietly exchanged in a coffee shop. An admission of a “Hail Mary” leak. An unmistakable effort to push the Russia investigation closer to Donald Trump’s inner circle with uncorroborated tales.

    Those are just some of the highlights from the day that Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson — paid by Hillary Clinton’s campaign to find dirt on her GOP rival — met secretly with a top Justice Department official, right after Trump won the 2016 election.

    And all of it was captured in the official’s handwritten notes — a contemporaneous record that intelligence professionals tell me exposes the flaws plaguing the early Russia collusion case. For example, Simpson told then-Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr during the Dec. 10, 2016, meeting in a Washington coffee shop that he believed Trump’s longtime lawyer, Michael Cohen, was the “go-between from Russia to the Trump campaign.”

    Yet, Simpson allegedly acknowledged that most of the information Fusion GPS and British intelligence operative Christopher Steele developed did not come from sources inside Moscow. “Much of the collection about the Trump campaign ties to Russia comes from a former Russian intelligence officer (? not entirely clear) who lives in the U.S.,” Ohr scribbled in his notes.

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    Congressional investigators now are scouring them for evidence that Simpson and Steele had influence over the Russia probe, even after Steele was dismissed as an FBI informant in November 2016. Investigators want to know if any players in the Russia probe gave Congress false testimony.

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    http://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/401...oj-about-trump

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    Guess, his fellow HILL 'reporters' don't think the author is very HONEST. Of course, I figured it out from YOUR title above, 'that sure doesn't sound like the HILL', so I looked. Lots of articles about the author of this Hill piece.

    So FOX finally has a source they can source as legitimate? Does FOX mention these HILL pieces are in 'opinion' section when they cite them?

    Erik Wemple
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    Staffers at The Hill press management about the work of John Solomon

    January 17, 2018

    A group of newsroom staffers at The Hill have complained to management about stories written by John Solomon, the publication’s executive vice president of digital video. The complaints were launched in December when Solomon and reporter Alison Spann broke a story under this headline: “Exclusive: Prominent lawyer sought donor cash for two Trump accusers.”

    The gist of Solomon and Spann’s story: Prominent California lawyer Lisa Bloom worked to secure payments for women who “made or considered making sexual misconduct allegations against Donald Trump during the final months of the 2016 presidential race.” The story cited “documents and interviews,” plus the on-the-record explanations by Bloom herself.

    The story impressed the conservative media world. Fox News host Sean Hannity called it a “bombshell report,” while conservative websites aggregated away. A New York Times story two weeks later noted that accuser-financing arrangements weren’t invented for the Trump era: Paula Jones’s harassment lawsuit against Bill Clinton received funding from the Rutherford Institute....

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.8adc121e896d
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    @excalibur....am I right in thinking the basic narrative here is that prior to the election, Clinton and her associates investigated Trump as to possible entanglements with Russia. Presumably for use in attack ads, and after they lost, to incite an investigation they hoped would lead to Trump's impeachment.

    Amirite?

    And if so, so what? How would that alter the criminal character of Trump's conduct as to Russia?

    You realize, I hope, that any contact, no matter through proxies or not, is almost certainly criminal? And if an agreement was reached between Trump and Putin, no matter the subject matter or terms, is virtually certain to be criminal.

    Private citizens in the U.S. are prohibited from secret negotiations with foreign countries aimed at altering official foreign policy.

    Why is one candidate digging for dirt on the other suspicious? Is it your contention this is something hitherto unknown in American politics?

    Or that Trump didn't do exactly the same to Hillary?
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    how are conspiracy theories a political debate? What is there to debate?


    A memory stick quietly exchanged in a coffee shop. An admission of a “Hail Mary” leak. An unmistakable effort to push the Russia investigation closer to Donald Trump’s inner circle with uncorroborated tales.

    Those are just some of the highlights from the day that Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson — paid by Hillary Clinton’s campaign to find dirt on her GOP rival — met secretly with a top Justice Department official, right after Trump won the 2016 election.

    And all of it was captured in the official’s handwritten notes — a contemporaneous record that intelligence professionals tell me exposes the flaws plaguing the early Russia collusion case. For example, Simpson told then-Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr during the Dec. 10, 2016, meeting in a Washington coffee shop that he believed Trump’s longtime lawyer, Michael Cohen, was the “go-between from Russia to the Trump campaign.”

    Yet, Simpson allegedly acknowledged that most of the information Fusion GPS and British intelligence operative Christopher Steele developed did not come from sources inside Moscow. “Much of the collection about the Trump campaign ties to Russia comes from a former Russian intelligence officer (? not entirely clear) who lives in the U.S.,” Ohr scribbled in his notes.


    all of this is a theory

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    how are conspiracy theories a political debate? What is there to debate?



    all of this is a theory
    Because, as Mueller gets closer to digging up dirt on Trump, he has no viable defense and is reduced to attacking the legitimacy of the investigation.

    Yes, Trump may be guilty (insert minimizing comment here), but other presidents have done worse (whataboutism), and the real motive for this investigation is to STEAL THE ELECTION from American voters, so it doesn't matter what Trump may have done because whatever it is, only people with very bad motives would work hard to find that out.

    Or, something like this, I'm guessing.

    It's ridiculous. Except that it gives room for Trumpaloompas to persist in supporting him by casting him in the role of bullying victim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by excalibur View Post
    Unraveling faster than a ball of twine in a cat's paw.



    The handwritten notes exposing what Fusion GPS told DOJ about Trump



    A memory stick quietly exchanged in a coffee shop. An admission of a “Hail Mary” leak. An unmistakable effort to push the Russia investigation closer to Donald Trump’s inner circle with uncorroborated tales.

    Those are just some of the highlights from the day that Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson — paid by Hillary Clinton’s campaign to find dirt on her GOP rival — met secretly with a top Justice Department official, right after Trump won the 2016 election.

    And all of it was captured in the official’s handwritten notes — a contemporaneous record that intelligence professionals tell me exposes the flaws plaguing the early Russia collusion case. For example, Simpson told then-Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr during the Dec. 10, 2016, meeting in a Washington coffee shop that he believed Trump’s longtime lawyer, Michael Cohen, was the “go-between from Russia to the Trump campaign.”

    Yet, Simpson allegedly acknowledged that most of the information Fusion GPS and British intelligence operative Christopher Steele developed did not come from sources inside Moscow. “Much of the collection about the Trump campaign ties to Russia comes from a former Russian intelligence officer (? not entirely clear) who lives in the U.S.,” Ohr scribbled in his notes.

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    Congressional investigators now are scouring them for evidence that Simpson and Steele had influence over the Russia probe, even after Steele was dismissed as an FBI informant in November 2016. Investigators want to know if any players in the Russia probe gave Congress false testimony.

    ...


    http://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/401...oj-about-trump
    Oh, that's easy.. if YOU want to know too, just look at Flynn / Sessions, and some more.. they all gave false testimony to Congress (in their confirmation hearings alone).

    I don't know what the Hill is all surprised about, it is well known and documented that quite a few players in the Russia probe have done so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoVsMatrix View Post
    Oh, that's easy.. if YOU want to know too, just look at Flynn / Sessions, and some more.. they all gave false testimony to Congress (in their confirmation hearings alone).

    I don't know what the Hill is all surprised about, it is well known and documented that quite a few players in the Russia probe have done so.
    True. When should we expect the arrests for perjury, conspiracy and obstruction?

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    Im confused about why this is supposed to be bad? This whole conspiracy theory makes no sense.

    The FBI already had a several months long investigation into the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia. The investigation began because Popadopolus mouthed off to an Australian diplomat.

    People are allowed to share information they find with the FBI. That isn’t illegal because you don’t like what that information said. Ohr even notes where Steel got the information from.

    Congressional investigators now are scouring them for evidence that Simpson and Steele had influence over the Russia probe, even after Steele was dismissed as an FBI informant in November 2016.
    Talk about a witch hunt. They blatantly state their conclusion before finding any evidence to suggest that.

    And what does “had influence” even mean? What an intentionally vague and ominous sounding phrase
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    True. When should we expect the arrests for perjury, conspiracy and obstruction?
    I think they're all waiting for Obama and Hillary to turn themselves in.. question of days only now. They're circling them so closely...
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    I wonder how the two planes in Little Rock tie into this?
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