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  1. #1
    papajohncutter

    Straight Talk Hillary... Just Straight

    Absolutely; you could say it about Barack, Fred,
    Mitt or Rudy. This is a reprint from Dick Morris
    and company. Of course Dick is no Hillary fan but
    there is meat here and some of the meat is
    necessary for Hillary to use. Even Dick points
    that out but still... to me, it brings my thoughts
    to this... what will happen after whomever is elected?
    There's not a poster here that can talk Social Security,
    taxes, immigration or anything else with any certainty
    from a standpoint of anyone you may support for
    president. So... I, for one, won't be surprised by those
    of you that say "yeah see what she does" or those of
    you that will say "I can't wait for her to do what she
    does" because it's simple... no one knows until and if
    she's elected. Interested in your future? Read on:

    BEHIND HILLARY'S DOUBLETALK

    By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN

    Published in the New York Post on November 2, 2007.

    Every time she approaches a microphone, Sen. Hillary
    Rodham Clinton labors under the necessity of fudging on her
    program - offering, instead, an artificial personality and a
    variety of poll-tested bromides that let her duck key issues.

    The resulting circumlocutions were evident in Tuesday night's
    Democratic debate. Her plans for Social Security? Clearly, she
    thinks she may need to raise Social Security taxes - but she
    can't say so. Instead, she repeats the poll-tested mantra of
    "fiscal responsibility" and a "bipartisan commission."

    By "fiscal responsibility," she means ending Treasury borrowing
    from the Social Security Trust Fund, a policy already in place.
    By a "bipartisan commission," she means sharing the blame for
    unpopular policies with Republicans to minimize the deadly
    electoral impact. But she can't explain any of that, so she just
    repeats the mantra.

    How about Iraq? Obviously, she doesn't plan to pull out. As she
    said in a newspaper interview before the presidential race
    really got under way, she recognizes that we need to keep troops
    there to train and support the Iraqi army, patrol the border
    with Iran and hunt al Qaeda in the provinces.

    But she can't say that without getting chewed up by the
    Democratic left. So she speaks about the logistical
    impossibility of an immediate withdrawal and acts as if the
    force she would leave to pursue these missions would be minimal
    - even though she knows that Pentagon plans put the troops
    needed for even these limited missions at upward of 80,000.

    Health-care reform? Her program of extending insurance to
    illegal immigrants and others who aren't now insured will
    trigger a massive increase in the demand for medical services.
    The result would be a steep price rise that would force
    rationing of health care, particularly for the elderly. But she
    mustn't say any of that - so she pretends that her health-care
    prescription is just a band-aid to cover the nagging little
    problem of 50 million uninsured and that her solution won't
    bother anybody else.

    Driver's licenses for illegal immigrants? Certainly, she favors
    them. During her husband's administration, she helped kill
    proposals to ban them. In the Senate, she voted against
    prohibiting them. But she can't say so without seeming to be
    soft on terror, so she temporizes, expressing sympathy - but not
    support - for the plan.

    A day after the other Democrats battered her over the issue in
    the debate, she released a statement of "general" support for
    Gov. Spitzer's goal of making illegal immigrants eligible for
    driver's licenses in New York. But, once again, a la Hillary,
    she sent confusing signals by stating that she hadn't studied it
    and wasn't "endorsing" any plan. So she's apparently for it but
    not for it. Get it?

    The Alternative Minimum Tax? Bill Clinton vetoed legislation to
    repeal it in 1999. She voted against repealing it in 2006. She
    likely intends to limit or terminate it once she's elected, but
    only in return for other massive tax hikes in its place. But,
    again, she has to criticize the tax because of her need to
    attract middle-class voters and speak of opposing a "trillion-
    dollar" tax increase on them.

    Iran? Thinking ahead to the general election, she must show
    toughness on terrorism. To court Jewish voters, in particular,
    she needs to stand up to Iranian nuclear ambitions. But, in the primary,
    she can't be seen to be too far to the right on the issue, so she
    speaks of "diplomacy" and of opposing a "rush to war." As Frederick
    the Great said, "Diplomacy without military might is like music without instruments."
    She knows this full well, but she can't mention the word "military" without forfeiting liberal votes in the primaries.

    On issue after issue, Hillary mustn't let voters know what she
    plans or what she wants to do. That's the difficulty in being
    Hillary.

  2. #2
    Think for myself

    Re: Straight Talk Hillary... Just Straight

    Hillary is evil!
    Hillary is evil!
    Hillary is evil!
    Hillary is evil!
    Hillary is evil!
    Hillary is evil!
    Hillary is evil!
    Hillary is evil!
    Hillary is evil!


    Funny how a guy like Dick Morris, thrown out of the Clinton White House for sucking the toes of prostitutes, says something bad about Hillary and it must be true, because with his half million odllar back taxes bill, Dick Morris certainly won't say anything he can to get a few bucks.

  3. #3
    Migi e!

    Re: Straight Talk Hillary... Just Straight

    "Musn't let voters know...."
    & that is exactly why she won't release all those documents from the archives until 2012, "she doesn't want people to know".

  4. #4
    Migi e!

    Re: Straight Talk Hillary... Just Straight

    Quote Originally Posted by Think for myself View Post
    Hillary is evil!
    Hillary is evil!
    Hillary is evil!
    Hillary is evil!
    Hillary is evil!
    Hillary is evil!
    Hillary is evil!
    Hillary is evil!
    Hillary is evil!


    Funny how a guy like Dick Morris, thrown out of the Clinton White House for sucking the toes of prostitutes, says something bad about Hillary and it must be true, because with his half million odllar back taxes bill, Dick Morris certainly won't say anything he can to get a few bucks.
    "funny how Dick Morris got thrown out of the White House" for a private sexual matter period.

  5. #5
    Think for myself

    Re: Straight Talk Hillary... Just Straight

    Quote Originally Posted by Migi e! View Post
    "funny how Dick Morris got thrown out of the White House" for a private sexual matter period.
    That is a bit ironic.

  6. #6
    Migi e!

    Re: Straight Talk Hillary... Just Straight

    Quote Originally Posted by Think for myself View Post
    That is a bit ironic.
    I thought you might see the irony.

  7. #7
    papajohncutter

    Re: Straight Talk Hillary... Just Straight

    I've caught all the Democrat and Republican debates and seen Hillary on quite a few programs and I can't find anything really not true in this piece. That's why I said you can't find any of the other major candidates, the candidates that stand a chance of becoming president, doing any better on the answers than Hillary.

    Still... do you consider Hillary's answers complete? If not then it really makes no difference who you vote for since no one else is doing any better or worse but... she's not answering but just doing generic answers and that doesn't cut it if you really want to know. I would think if you back Hillary it's more than opposing someone else. Shouldn't it be because of what a candidate stands for?

  8. #8
    Migi e!

    Re: Straight Talk Hillary... Just Straight

    She never answers a question. She wants it both ways, she has had a candid moment or two where she forgot where she was & blurted out something, like when she used the gender card. She's as fake as a three $$ bill.

  9. #9
    papajohncutter

    Re: Straight Talk Hillary... Just Straight

    Let me tell you something I like about me. I don't hate anyone. The only ***** in that is osama and those that kill out of the blue and it's not really hate I feel there either nor is it revenge. Call it justice or just let me have it because I feel that way but... I still will.

    I could vote for Hillary. I could vote for Rudy. Thompson, Romney or maybe someone else. The thing is I want to listen and when i want to listen I want to hear something that makes sense. Believe me... you say something that makes sense to me and gets my agreement and you may get my vote or me on your side of the argument.

    I'm not a Democrat thank goodness. I'm not a Republican either. In my state i tried to register non-partisan and they made me an Independent and I don't like that either. I can still be counted in some manner. Don't get me wrong. I've been a registered Democrat and a registered Republican. I've been seen thinking liberal and conservative. I've even been known to make up my own mind but...

    If any candidate wants my solid vote and further support then i want answers to the important questions and that goes well beyond Iraq.

  10. #10
    Migi e!

    Re: Straight Talk Hillary... Just Straight

    "Let me tell you something I like about me"?
    Hmm, I don't think I've ever read a post like that before.

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