Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 20

Thread: Corporate America destroying the America

  1. #1
    liberalman

    Corporate America destroying the America

    Mom Faces Massive File-Sharing Fines After DOJ Sides With RIAA


    Justice Department prosecutors argue that Jammie Thomas' $222,000 judgment is in line with the U.S. Copyright Act.
    By K.C. Jones
    InformationWeek
    December 5, 2007 01:48 PM
    The Minnesota mother who vowed to fight the Recording Industry Association of America after she was convicted of illegally downloading copyrighted music now has another heavyweight to contend with. The U.S. Justice Department has sided with the RIAA and a jury's $222,000 judgment against Jammie Thomas for illegally downloading and sharing copyrighted music. The amount breaks down to $9,250 per song. The case, Capitol v. Thomas, was the first file-sharing lawsuit to make it to trial. It gained widespread attention because of that.
    Mom Faces Massive File-Sharing Fines After DOJ Sides With RIAA -- RIAA -- InformationWeek



    If you want proof that corporations have to much power look no further. I applaud the woman for fighting but one has to wonder if she can ever win when the conservative movement has stacked the deck in favor of big money and big business at the expense of average americans.


    To be sure she should not have downloaded songs....but $9250/song. That is beyond the skope of reality. You would think given the Justice Dept. many scandals and the ever growing caseload of wrongful imprisonment suits that they would just this once side with the consumer rather then the campaign contributors.

  2. #2
    Zarathustra

    Re: Corporate America destroying the America

    I dunno about any of that, but your thread title is very dishonest.

  3. #3
    michaelr

    Re: Corporate America destroying the America

    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    I dunno about any of that, but your thread title is very dishonest.
    Your right, I was expecting something very different.

  4. #4
    Babylon

    Re: Corporate America destroying the America

    Quote Originally Posted by liberalman View Post
    Mom Faces Massive File-Sharing Fines After DOJ Sides With RIAA


    Justice Department prosecutors argue that Jammie Thomas' $222,000 judgment is in line with the U.S. Copyright Act.
    By K.C. Jones
    InformationWeek
    December 5, 2007 01:48 PM
    The Minnesota mother who vowed to fight the Recording Industry Association of America after she was convicted of illegally downloading copyrighted music now has another heavyweight to contend with. The U.S. Justice Department has sided with the RIAA and a jury's $222,000 judgment against Jammie Thomas for illegally downloading and sharing copyrighted music. The amount breaks down to $9,250 per song. The case, Capitol v. Thomas, was the first file-sharing lawsuit to make it to trial. It gained widespread attention because of that.
    Mom Faces Massive File-Sharing Fines After DOJ Sides With RIAA -- RIAA -- InformationWeek



    If you want proof that corporations have to much power look no further. I applaud the woman for fighting but one has to wonder if she can ever win when the conservative movement has stacked the deck in favor of big money and big business at the expense of average americans.


    To be sure she should not have downloaded songs....but $9250/song. That is beyond the skope of reality. You would think given the Justice Dept. many scandals and the ever growing caseload of wrongful imprisonment suits that they would just this once side with the consumer rather then the campaign contributors.
    Holy SHIT!! I have at least 4400 songs illegally downloaded! Imagine what my fine would be like?

  5. #5
    Blueneck

    Re: Corporate America destroying the America

    Quote Originally Posted by liberalman View Post
    Mom Faces Massive File-Sharing Fines After DOJ Sides With RIAA


    Justice Department prosecutors argue that Jammie Thomas' $222,000 judgment is in line with the U.S. Copyright Act.
    By K.C. Jones
    InformationWeek
    December 5, 2007 01:48 PM
    The Minnesota mother who vowed to fight the Recording Industry Association of America after she was convicted of illegally downloading copyrighted music now has another heavyweight to contend with. The U.S. Justice Department has sided with the RIAA and a jury's $222,000 judgment against Jammie Thomas for illegally downloading and sharing copyrighted music. The amount breaks down to $9,250 per song. The case, Capitol v. Thomas, was the first file-sharing lawsuit to make it to trial. It gained widespread attention because of that.
    Mom Faces Massive File-Sharing Fines After DOJ Sides With RIAA -- RIAA -- InformationWeek



    If you want proof that corporations have to much power look no further. I applaud the woman for fighting but one has to wonder if she can ever win when the conservative movement has stacked the deck in favor of big money and big business at the expense of average americans.


    To be sure she should not have downloaded songs....but $9250/song. That is beyond the skope of reality. You would think given the Justice Dept. many scandals and the ever growing caseload of wrongful imprisonment suits that they would just this once side with the consumer rather then the campaign contributors.
    This judgment is definitely high. I don't think the record company got this for pain and suffering. It's just punitive, and of course they tacked on the cost of prosecuting the case.

    But the main reason for this judgment is that people get really ticked at the idea of people taking something for free and not being sorry. This woman blew it by being defiant. Judges and juries both hate that.

    The fact is people that download free music are smartasses. Even if it would only cost 25 cents to download a song, they'd rather get it for free. This campaign by the record companies isn't going to get them any actual cash from the people they sue, more than likely, but it will have an effect.

    I'm not a corporate suck up, but I've known a lot of thieves. I have more respect for somebody that has the guts to put a gun in someone's face and steal their money outright than someone who is too cheap to pay $1 for something and sneaks it.

    Most of these "file-sharers" would never have the balls to steal a CD from Walmart. But when they get busted for piracy, suddenly they are all anti-corporate warriors. They're a bunch of impostors.

    Having said that, there's a whole legitimate industry revolving around the technology that is used to do this. No lawsuits there....And I totally agree with you about wrongful imprisonment and consumer rights. But people downloading music for free just think they won't be caught and prosecuted because everyone does it and they can hide in the crowd. Their motives aren't some noble rebellion against corporate America. They're just skinflints.

  6. #6
    Blueneck

    Re: Corporate America destroying the America

    Quote Originally Posted by Babylon View Post
    Holy SHIT!! I have at least 4400 songs illegally downloaded! Imagine what my fine would be like?
    Well, I hope your smart enough not ot use the same screename every where you go.

  7. #7
    badkarma

    Re: Corporate America destroying the America

    Quote Originally Posted by liberalman View Post
    Mom Faces Massive File-Sharing Fines After DOJ Sides With RIAA


    Justice Department prosecutors argue that Jammie Thomas' $222,000 judgment is in line with the U.S. Copyright Act.
    By K.C. Jones
    InformationWeek
    December 5, 2007 01:48 PM
    The Minnesota mother who vowed to fight the Recording Industry Association of America after she was convicted of illegally downloading copyrighted music now has another heavyweight to contend with. The U.S. Justice Department has sided with the RIAA and a jury's $222,000 judgment against Jammie Thomas for illegally downloading and sharing copyrighted music. The amount breaks down to $9,250 per song. The case, Capitol v. Thomas, was the first file-sharing lawsuit to make it to trial. It gained widespread attention because of that.
    Mom Faces Massive File-Sharing Fines After DOJ Sides With RIAA -- RIAA -- InformationWeek



    If you want proof that corporations have to much power look no further. I applaud the woman for fighting but one has to wonder if she can ever win when the conservative movement has stacked the deck in favor of big money and big business at the expense of average americans.


    To be sure she should not have downloaded songs....but $9250/song. That is beyond the skope of reality. You would think given the Justice Dept. many scandals and the ever growing caseload of wrongful imprisonment suits that they would just this once side with the consumer rather then the campaign contributors.
    the point of punishment is not only to punish the guilty but to also convince others that committing the crime is not worth the possible punishment. while $9,250 is pretty harsh, you can't lay the blame at anyones feet but Jammie Thomas. She is the one that broke the law, she is the one that took the chance of punishment, and now that she has to face the repercussions of her actions you wish to blame corporations and conservatives? Please.

  8. #8
    Peterpan

    Re: Corporate America destroying the America

    Quote Originally Posted by Babylon View Post
    Holy SHIT!! I have at least 4400 songs illegally downloaded! Imagine what my fine would be like?

    OMG OMG OMG LAWBREAKER LAWBREAKER. I'm REPORTING YOU!!!!


    pssst.....what site do you use for your songs....

  9. #9
    2lane

    Re: Corporate America destroying the America

    Quote Originally Posted by Blueneck View Post
    This judgment is definitely high. I don't think the record company got this for pain and suffering. It's just punitive, and of course they tacked on the cost of prosecuting the case.

    But the main reason for this judgment is that people get really ticked at the idea of people taking something for free and not being sorry. This woman blew it by being defiant. Judges and juries both hate that.

    The fact is people that download free music are smartasses. Even if it would only cost 25 cents to download a song, they'd rather get it for free. This campaign by the record companies isn't going to get them any actual cash from the people they sue, more than likely, but it will have an effect.

    I'm not a corporate suck up, but I've known a lot of thieves. I have more respect for somebody that has the guts to put a gun in someone's face and steal their money outright than someone who is too cheap to pay $1 for something and sneaks it.

    Most of these "file-sharers" would never have the balls to steal a CD from Walmart. But when they get busted for piracy, suddenly they are all anti-corporate warriors. They're a bunch of impostors.

    Having said that, there's a whole legitimate industry revolving around the technology that is used to do this. No lawsuits there....And I totally agree with you about wrongful imprisonment and consumer rights. But people downloading music for free just think they won't be caught and prosecuted because everyone does it and they can hide in the crowd. Their motives aren't some noble rebellion against corporate America. They're just skinflints.
    This trial occured in a community that is close to home so we followed this pretty closely on the local news. The op-eds opined that this was deliberate by RIAA, to make an example of her. Liberalman isn't to far off though with the thread title. Local public radio was doing a program on credit card companies and the cooperation they're getting from legislators passing laws that essentially allow the banks to run all over the consumer with fees and rate hikes. I.e., You can pay your bills on time, never be late but go into Sears, and to take advantage of a 25% discount and apply for a Sears charge, this in turn triggers an "unannounced" increase in all your other credit cards rates because you just bumped yourself up on the "risk charts" the banks use. Banks makes over 16 billion dollars a year in late fees and other service charges alone, not counting the interest your paying. Also, if the bank is over charging you in interest they are under no obligation to tell you, you have to recognize it and appeal.

  10. #10
    liberalman

    Re: Corporate America destroying the America

    Given the changes to the fair use laws and the rise of "intellectual property" laws I do blame industry. Given that corporations now have more rights then real citizens, live off of the largess of the taxpayer and in the end have set up draconian fair use laws I see this just another example of their rights being put a nothc above the rest of us. If a recording company uses my song i would be lucky to see a few hundred bucks....if I use theirs then I would be lucky to not have to sell my house to pay the fine.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 3rd April 2010, 07:08 AM
  2. Replies: 3
    Last Post: 20th January 2010, 05:39 PM
  3. Is Corporate America a Cabal?
    By coberst in forum Philosophy and Religion
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 24th March 2009, 07:16 AM
  4. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 7th December 2008, 08:37 AM
  5. Why liberalism is a disease destroying America - Part 1
    By JBH100 in forum Political Discussion
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 9th September 2008, 01:02 PM

Tags for this Thread


Facebook Twitter RSS Feed