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    You are wrong Michaelr. Under the War Powers Resolution the President has the authority to launch US actions for 60-90 days before seeking an authorization rom Congress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michaelr View Post
    Boner is a war pimp. that still doesn't change the rules.
    They're all war pimps... that's a prerequisite to be an elected official.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beatleboy View Post
    You are wrong Michaelr. Under the War Powers Resolution the President has the authority to launch US actions for 60-90 days before seeking an authorization rom Congress.
    Only if this nation is at risk. Sorry but supporting a 'revolution' in Libya doesn't meet criteria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inkslinger View Post
    They're all war pimps... that's a prerequisite to be an elected official.
    That and an allegiance to Israel.

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    I'll update this as I find relevant info:


    The Supremacy Clause is a clause in the United States Constitution, article VI, paragraph 2. The clause establishes the U.S. Constitution, Federal Statutes, and U.S. treaties as "the supreme law of the land."
    Supremacy Clause - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    Treaties can be loosely compared to contracts: both are means of willing parties assuming obligations among themselves, and a party to either that fails to live up to their obligations can be held liable under international law.
    Treaty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    United Nations Charter
    Signed
    Location June 26, 1945
    San Francisco, California, United States
    Effective
    Condition October 24, 1945
    Ratification by China, France, the Soviet Union, the United Kingdom, United States and by a majority of the other signatory states.
    Parties 192
    Charter of the United Nations at Wikisource

    The Charter of the United Nations is the foundational treaty of the international organization called the United Nations.[1] It was signed at the San Francisco War Memorial and Performing Arts Center in San Francisco, United States, on June 26, 1945, by 50 of the 51 original member countries (Poland, the other original member, which was not represented at the conference, signed it later). It entered into force on October 24, 1945, after being ratified by the five permanent members of the Security Council—the Republic of China (later replaced by the People's Republic of China), France, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (later replaced by the Russian Federation), the United Kingdom, and the United States—and a majority of the other signatories. Today, 192 countries are the members of the United Nations.

    As a charter, it is a constituent treaty, and all members are bound by its articles. Furthermore, the Charter states that obligations to the United Nations prevail over all other treaty obligations.[1] Most countries in the world have now ratified the Charter. One notable exception is the Holy See, which has chosen to remain a permanent observer state and therefore is not a full signatory to the Charter.[2]
    United Nations Charter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Obama’s War on Libya: A Constitutional View

    I think the entire government needs to be impeached.

    Ever since the Korean War, Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution has been regularly cited as justification for the President to act with a seemingly free reign in the realm of foreign policy – including the initiation of foreign wars. But, it is Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution that lists the power to declare war, and this power is placed solely in the hands of Congress.

    Article II, Section 2, on the other hand, refers to the President as the “commander-in-chief of the army and navy of the United States.” What the founders meant by this clause was that once war was declared, it would then be the responsibility of the President, as the commander-in-chief, to direct the war.

    Alexander Hamilton clarified this when he said that the President, while lacking the power to declare war, would have “the direction of war when authorized.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I'll update this as I find relevant info:


    The Supremacy Clause is a clause in the United States Constitution, article VI, paragraph 2. The clause establishes the U.S. Constitution, Federal Statutes, and U.S. treaties as "the supreme law of the land."
    Supremacy Clause - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    Treaties can be loosely compared to contracts: both are means of willing parties assuming obligations among themselves, and a party to either that fails to live up to their obligations can be held liable under international law.
    Treaty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    That does not oblige us to fight the UN's wars. We are not their slaves or military.

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    Let's try this again Michaelr. Maybe i didn't explain it in detail, or maybe you should do some research. War Powers Act--The President must notify Congress within 48 hrs before committing armed forces to military action. He doesn't need Congressional approval for 60-90 days. Now, if our country is under attack or it has been attacked, then approval is needed for an all out war. i will concede that i don't know if Obama notified congress within 48 hrs, have to check on that.

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    The War Powers Resolution of 1973 (50 U.S.C. 1541–1548) was a United States Congress joint resolution providing that the President can send U.S. armed forces into action abroad only by authorization of Congress or if the United States is already under attack or serious threat.[citation needed] The War Powers Resolution requires the president to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30 day withdrawal period, without an authorization of the use of military force or a declaration of war. The resolution was passed by two-thirds of Congress, overriding a presidential veto.
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    you all were saying?


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Resolution

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    Quote Originally Posted by michaelr View Post
    That does not oblige us to fight the UN's wars.
    Actually it does Mike:


    United Nations Charter
    Signed
    Location June 26, 1945
    San Francisco, California, United States
    Effective
    Condition October 24, 1945
    Ratification by China, France, the Soviet Union, the United Kingdom, United States and by a majority of the other signatory states.
    Parties 192
    Charter of the United Nations at Wikisource

    The Charter of the United Nations is the foundational treaty of the international organization called the United Nations.[1] It was signed at the San Francisco War Memorial and Performing Arts Center in San Francisco, United States, on June 26, 1945, by 50 of the 51 original member countries (Poland, the other original member, which was not represented at the conference, signed it later). It entered into force on October 24, 1945, after being ratified by the five permanent members of the Security Council—the Republic of China (later replaced by the People's Republic of China), France, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (later replaced by the Russian Federation), the United Kingdom, and the United States—and a majority of the other signatories. Today, 192 countries are the members of the United Nations.

    As a charter, it is a constituent treaty, and all members are bound by its articles. Furthermore, the Charter states that obligations to the United Nations prevail over all other treaty obligations.[1] Most countries in the world have now ratified the Charter. One notable exception is the Holy See, which has chosen to remain a permanent observer state and therefore is not a full signatory to the Charter.[2]
    United Nations Charter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




    As a treaty it is the Supreme Law of the Land & President Obama would have been in violation of both U.S. & international law if he had failed to act on the U.N. resolution against Libya.
    Now that would not have branded him an international war criminal....like his predecessor.....but he would have been liable to answer for our not meeting our treaty obligations.



    Edit: Read your own signature file Mike.... “The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.”
    This was a Multilateral/UN authorization.
    Last edited by Devil505; 25th March 2011 at 01:55 PM.

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