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    Lots of people claim that the Tea Party movement has nothing to do with race, and the fact that nearly all "members" are white is something of a coincidence.



    This was published in the current issue of The Week, and makes some excellent points. If it's not about race, then let's imagine that nearly all of the Tea Party members calling for revolution, staging rallies, and openly brandishing legal firearms in public, and talking about taking back the country... were black.



    But this short op-ed speaks for itself:






    Editor's Letter: If the Tea Party were black



    For the sake of this exercise, imagine that members of Congress in March had been surrounded by thousands of angry African-Americans, yelling insults at white, Southern politicians.



    posted on April 29, 2010, at 1:59 PM



    It’s a provocative thought experiment: “Imagine,” writes author and self-described anti-racism activist Tim Wise, “if the Tea Party were black.” In reality, of course, the Tea Party is virtually all white, but for the sake of this exercise, imagine that members of Congress in March had been surrounded by thousands of angry African-Americans, yelling insults at white, Southern politicians and talking about “revolution’’ and “taking the country back.’’ Or, imagine that the hundreds of gun-rights activists who recently descended on the nation’s capital, many armed with AK-47s and handguns, were black. Would admirers of the Tea Party view such protesters as patriotic Americans entitled to voice their heartfelt opinions, or as a dangerous mob that the police and the FBI should closely watch? And what if there were a black Glenn Beck, with millions of devoted followers, calling for a public uprising against a tyrannical U.S. government? Would he be seen as an entertainer—or as a threat to public safety? “To ask any of these questions,” Wise concludes, “is to answer them.”



    The experiment, however, cuts both ways. If the throngs holding Tea Party protests were mostly black, might liberals be less apt to dismiss them as cranks, and mock their laments about taxpayer money being used to bail out Wall Street? And might liberals be less inclined to seize on the vile ranting of some hotheads as representative of the movement as a whole? Discomfiting questions, all. We’d all like to pretend we live in a nation where race doesn’t color our views of people and politics. But a colorblind society is not a reality; it, too, remains a thought experiment.



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    NEWS FLASH !!!

    Calling people racists STILL doesn't change their minds about issues, issues that are completely unrelated to race, that are important to them.



    Keep playing the race card all the way to the 2010 election. Please, I am begging you, keep playing the race card! See how that election strategy works out for you.

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    This is the second time the race baiter's used this article as a thread topic. This one to will flop.

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    [quote name='Disappointed not surprised' date='04 May 2010 - 10:51 AM' timestamp='1272995504' post='147421']

    NEWS FLASH !!!

    Calling people racists STILL doesn't change their minds about issues, issues that are completely unrelated to race, that are important to them.



    Keep playing the race card all the way to the 2010 election. Please, I am begging you, keep playing the race card! See how that election strategy works out for you.

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    [quote name='michaelr' date='04 May 2010 - 10:54 AM' timestamp='1272995645' post='147423']

    This is the second time the race baiter's used this article as a thread topic. This one to will flop.

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    Every time you guys get all defensive about this kind of stuff you push me closer to reconsidering my previous stance that Tea Partiers are no more racist that the average white population.



    But you both haven't addressed how different the reaction from Fox News, and yourselves would be if blacks formed an anti government group and protested en masse. Just look at how freaked out Republicans got about the rallies held in opposition to the Arizona law.

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    [quote name='Goldwater' date='04 May 2010 - 11:04 AM' timestamp='1272996255' post='147424']

    Every time you guys get all defensive about this kind of stuff you push me closer to reconsidering my previous stance that Tea Partiers are no more racist that the average white population.



    But you both haven't addressed how different the reaction from Fox News, and yourselves would be if blacks formed an anti government group and protested en masse. Just look at how freaked out Republicans got about the rallies held in opposition to the Arizona law.

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    Let me explain, I don't feel defensive at all... more like superior to such a divisive, transparent, and stupid tactic.

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    [quote name='Goldwater' date='04 May 2010 - 11:04 AM' timestamp='1272996255' post='147424']

    Every time you guys get all defensive about this kind of stuff you push me closer to reconsidering my previous stance that Tea Partiers are no more racist that the average white population.



    But you both haven't addressed how different the reaction from Fox News, and yourselves would be if blacks formed an anti government group and protested en masse. Just look at how freaked out Republicans got about the rallies held in opposition to the Arizona law.

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    Look, this pile of shit article assumes the TEA Party is violent. Let me clue you in here. The only group I saw that I know of that rioted was the pro illegal crowd. They literally mobbed with torches and burnt down shops with people in them. That is attempted murder.



    I didn't see the TEA Party grab their guns and shoot those bastards, although I am sure the idea crossed some minds!



    If the blacks wanted to gather and protest the wars, the bailouts, Obama care, or the fucking criminal government, I would stand out amongst them, OK. I am real tall, and white, and I would be there!!!!

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    [quote name='michaelr' date='04 May 2010 - 11:14 AM' timestamp='1272996885' post='147427']

    Look, this pile of shit article assumes the TEA Party is violent. Let me clue you in here. The only group I saw that I know of that rioted was the pro illegal crowd. They literally mobbed with torches and burnt down shops with people in them. That is attempted murder.

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    15 businesses had their windows broken and graffiti was spray painted on some of those businesses. Some demonstrators carried torches. The one arrest was a homeless guy from a nearby town who probably didn't care about immigration as much as he did possibly looting. The police are looking for the rest of the vandals.

    http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...-92637494.html



    But Mike...nobody tried to burn down anything with people in it. Where do you get this stuff?



    [quote name='michaelr' date='04 May 2010 - 11:14 AM' timestamp='1272996885' post='147427']I didn't see the TEA Party grab their guns and shoot those bastards, although I am sure the idea crossed some minds!

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    If Republicans don't win back the house and senate in November we may see Tea Partiers carry out those fantasies of killing those who dissagree with them.



    [quote name='michaelr' date='04 May 2010 - 11:14 AM' timestamp='1272996885' post='147427']If the blacks wanted to gather and protest the wars, the bailouts, Obama care, or the fucking criminal government, I would stand out amongst them, OK. I am real tall, and white, and I would be there!!!!

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    Thats what I like about you Mike. You're not like most of the Republican Tea Party. I honestly will never understand why you defend a group that is 75% Republican and voted 80% Republican in 2008. Guess which party 99% of Tea Partiers will support in 2010 and 2012?

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    [quote name='Goldwater' date='04 May 2010 - 11:33 AM' timestamp='1272998021' post='147429']

    15 businesses had their windows broken and graffiti was spray painted on some of those businesses. Some demonstrators carried torches. The one arrest was a homeless guy from a nearby town who probably didn't care about immigration as much as he did possibly looting. The police are looking for the rest of the vandals.

    http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...-92637494.html



    But Mike...nobody tried to burn down anything with people in it. Where do you get this stuff?





    If Republicans don't win back the house and senate in November we may see Tea Partiers carry out those fantasies of killing those who dissagree with them.





    Thats what I like about you Mike. You're not like most of the Republican Tea Party. I honestly will never understand why you defend a group that is 75% Republican and voted 80% Republican in 2008. Guess which party 99% of Tea Partiers will support in 2010 and 2012?

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    Riot breaks out in downtown Santa Cruz; windows broken on dozens of businesses, porch of cafe set on fire



    We, the Campaign For Liberty and We Are Change, started the TEA Party in 2007, I have to defend the movement, and we are taking it back when the neofucks take back control. You may join us at that time, we accept all walks of life, even Beck-Heads.

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    [quote name='michaelr' date='04 May 2010 - 01:54 PM' timestamp='1272995645' post='147423']

    This is the second time the race baiter's used this article as a thread topic. This one to will flop.

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    Not sure what you're talking about... I just read the article in the current issue of The Week while eating lunch a few hours ago. How could I have used it previously?

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    [quote name='Djinn' date='04 May 2010 - 11:46 AM' timestamp='1272998801' post='147434']

    Not sure what you're talking about... I just read the article in the current issue of The Week while eating lunch a few hours ago. How could I have used it previously?

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    You didn't I believe Blueneck did.

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