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    blah blah blah shut the hell up, you coward.
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    I thought she made a fair point. His reaction was definitely out of line, imo.

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    Local papers opine on congresscritters catfight..

    Allen West's attack insulting: It further poisons political atmosphere in Congress - OrlandoSentinel.com
    12:00 a.m. EDT, July 21, 2011

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    Unfortunately, it's expected that candidates today will ply the depths in pursuit of public office, thoroughly fouling their opponents and themselves in the process.
    But the public also expects at least a modicum of maturity and civility from candidates once they reach office. They didn't get it Tuesday from U.S. Rep. Allen West, a South Florida Republican and Tea Party favorite, whose tirade launched via email at South Florida Democrat Debbie Wasserman Schultz astounded even grizzled Capital Hill observers.

    Wasserman Schultz had indirectly criticized West on the floor of the House for backing a GOP-supported budget-cutting plan. She said it was unbelievable that a South Florida representative would back a plan that slashes health-care entitlements but not tax breaks for Big Oil and millionaires. West's texted rely: "You want a personal fight, I am happy to oblige. You are the most vile, unprofessional and despicable member of the U.S. House…stop being a coward…shut the heck up … you are not a lady…"

    The two have a history: In 2010, Wasserman Schultz justifiably protested West's association with a misogynistic biker magazine, which then-candidate West submitted his bylined columns to for publication. In one issue, a column that West didn't write attacked Wasserman Schultz's sexuality and compared her to excrement.

    Wasserman Schultz, the Democratic National Committee chair, far too often commits gaffes and engages in cheap hyperbole on behalf of Democratic candidates and her party's political agenda. It's embarrassing. But West's attack was personal. And dangerous. Should others in Congress think it's fine to go that route, the atmosphere there will become so poisonous that lawmakers will never want to work together to pass legislation, as opposed to now, where they rarely want to work together. But working together's what the public sent them there to do.

    Copyright © 2011, Orlando Sentinel os-ed-wasserman-west-feud-072111-20110720


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    Spat between Wasserman Schultz and Allen West is political and personal -- MiamiHerald.com

    In a sign of the hostile atmosphere in Congress, two of its most partisan figures, Broward representatives Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Allen West, continued a personal feud Wednesday that overshadowed the serious debate over how to get the nation out of debt. The spat played out on national television after having erupted the day before when West sent an email calling Wasserman Schultz “vile” and “despicable” after she said on the House floor that a Republican budget-cutting plan ruined Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security.

    The dispute isn’t all about policy. It’s rooted in personal Broward County politics dating back to Wasserman Schultz’s 2010 claim that West supports denigrating women because he was a columnist for a racy South Florida biker mag. West said those remarks were false and offensive. “She’s not a victim,” West, R-Plantation, said on Republican-leaning Fox News Wednesday morning. “She’s been attacking Allen West for quite some time. And I finally had to let her know: Enough’s enough.”

    Wasserman Schultz, the Democratic National Committee chairwoman from Weston, appeared later on Democrat-leaning MSNBC and repeated her talking points about the Republican plan.“It’s not really surprising that he would crack under the pressure of having to defend that,” she said. “If he feels that concerned and gets that churned up over having to defend his position then he probably should reconsider his position.”

    The clear winner: The Washington outrage machine that exploits controversies for fundraising opportunities and political points.
    Read more: Spat between Wasserman Schultz and Allen West - MiamiHerald.com
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    Broward/Palm Beach Sun-Sentinel | The West/Wasserman Schultz flap

    July 20, 2011 04:32 PM by Chan Lowe

    From a political junkie’s standpoint, we here in South Florida are treated to a deliciously abrasive congressional combination⎯adjoining districts represented by Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, a proud liberal and chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, and Rep. Allen West, the tea party champion who has been touted as Republican Vice-Presidential material. The other day, the antipathy the two harbor toward each other exploded on the floor of the House, when Ms. Wasserman Schultz expressed her incredulity that Mr. West, a congressman from this senior-rich area, would pursue with such alacrity the cutting of entitlement programs upon which so many of his elderly constituents depend. This is standard stuff in congressional debate. Mr. West’s response to Ms. Wasserman Schultz was not. In his retort, he swiftly descended to an ad hominem attack, using words like “vile,” “unprofessional,” “despicable,” “coward” and "no lady" to describe Ms. Wasserman Schultz personally.

    It can only perplex observers that a retired Army colonel who served his country with valor in Iraq, who thought nothing of facing down armed fighters without flinching, and who carries a weapon for his own self-protection, can become so defensive when confronted with a verbal onslaught by a self-described Jewish mom from Plantation. Maybe Mr. West felt that taking lip from a mouthy female was beneath the dignity of a United States Congressman, or maybe he determined that criticism of his policies amounted to insubordination in the ranks.

    It’s up to Ms. Wasserman Schultz to decide whether she deserves an apology, but it would better serve the American people, the interests of the State of Florida, Mr. West’s constituents, and his own effectiveness as a politician if he restricted his comments to legitimate criticism of policies he disagrees with. He may not realize it, but Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s life experiences make her every bit as worthy of respect as his do him.
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    Looks like to 2 to 1 infavor of Debbs. Miami Herald says they both win. or both lost. depends on your point of view.
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    Should Allen West have apologized to Debbie Wasserman-Schultz? | The Opinion Zone | The Palm Beach Post
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    While the serious business of finding a way to raise the debt ceiling was going in the Senate on Tuesday, the House was staging yet another symbolic vote on something that never will become law: the “cut, cap and balance” plan. During the scripted debate, Florida congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz – who also serves as chairman of the Democratic National Committee – called it “incredulously” – she probably mean to say “incredibly” – that “the gentleman from Florida” supported the plan. Rep. Allen West assumed that Rep. Wasserman Schultz was talking about him, after he had left the floor.

    So the man who advised his supporters in 2010 to make incumbent Ron Klein “scared to come out of his house” took offense. Big-time, as Dick Cheney might have said. He emailed Rep. Wasserman Schultz to call her “the most vile, unprofessional ,and despicable member of the US House of Representatives.” He’s got his own grammar issues. He accused Rep. Wasserman Schultz of being afraid to confront him in person.

    The chairman of the Florida Democratic Party demanded that Rep. West apologize. Rep. Wasserman Schultz’s aide shot back a reply containing a shot at Rep. West for living not in the District 22 he represents but in Rep. Wasserman Schultz’s District 20. Your tax dollars at work.

    In fact, both principals love hyperbole. Rep. Wasserman Schultz has called the Republican budget plan “immoral.” And this year, Rep. West called the Obama administration a “vice, vicious despicable machine.” So his line isn’t even new. Still, it was a personal attack against a fellow member of Congress. Rep. Wasserman Schultz at least was talking about policy. And late Wednesday, it was reported that Rep. West had apologized. That report was followed by others denying that he had apologized.
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    tsk tsk tsk... poor Mr. Allen, loses his temper and resorts to personal attacks. He really should get better control of his emotions.

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    I'm sure his constituents in Florida will be demanding that he make a public apology..as he should..if he has a speck of "gentleman" in him that is.

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    Tea-party favorite Allen West called fellow Broward U.S. Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz “vile and despicable” in an email after she trashed a Republican budget-cutting plan Tuesday night on the House floor.

    In his verbal explosion, the Plantation Republican suggested his beef with Wasserman Schultz began in October 2010 and “the disgusting protest you ordered at my campaign” headquarters in Deerfield Beach, West said in his email. But what finally set West off was the fact that Wasserman Schultz, the Democratic National Committee chair, said on the House floor that it was “unbelievable from a Member from South Florida" to support a plan that slashes Medicaid and Medicare “in favor of protecting tax breaks for Big Oil, millionaires, and companies who ship American jobs overseas." She never identified West by name.

    West, who had left the House floor by that point, then dashed off his retort.

    “Let me make myself perfectly clear, you want a personal fight, I am happy to oblige. You are the most vile, unprofessional ,and despicable member of the US House of Representatives. If you have something to say to me, stop being a coward and say it to my face, otherwise, shut the heck up. Focus on your own congressional district!,” West wrote.

    “Understand that I shall defend myself forthright against your heinous characterless behavior,” West continued. “You have proven repeatedly that you are not a Lady, therefore, shall not be afforded due respect from me!”

    West trashes Wasserman Schultz as ‘vile’ for budget comments - Florida - MiamiHerald.com

    Geeze all she did was make a comment about how unbelievable it is to hear from a Member from South Florida who supports a plan that slashes Medicaid and Medicare “in favor of protecting tax breaks for Big Oil, millionaires, and companies who ship American jobs overseas."

    It sent this teabagger guy into a drama queen hissy fit.

    He needs to shut the hell up himself and try to remember not so long ago when it was considered to be normal thing to do for the Teaparty to directly lie and trash people on a regular basis.
    He is also a sexist pig for claiming she's "Not a Lady" for having the gall to make such a comment and she does not deserved to be treated as such.

    Yeah, DWS showed some shitspa there in her vile attack IMO.

    Hopefully DWS and the rest of the Democratic leadership will keep track of the outbursts by these unstable assholes and effectively use this against them during the election the follwoing fall (2012).
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    What a sexist pig this jerk is! He says since he's married and has two daughters he can't be sexist.

    But this isn’t the first time West has stirred up controversy with comments about women. Given his short time in office and his own accusations of sexism by political opponents, West has compiled a rather unimpressive record of associating with misogynists, stereotyping the role of women in society, and engaging in outright misogyny of his own:
    West contributed to a Florida magazine that called women “oral relief stations”: Before he was elected to Congress, West was a monthly contributor to “Miami Mike’s Wheels On The Road,” a biker magazine that billed itself as the “South Florida Biker’s Bible.” The magazine has featured multiple overtly misogynistic articles, including one asking readers to imagine having sex with Wasserman Schultz. At other times, the magazine’s writers referred to women as “oral relief stations,” complained about women who said “their knees hurt,” depicted women as servants of men, and suggested that they should wear “slave chokers” as accessories.
    West claimed liberal women were “neutering” American men and causing a crisis of leadership in America: In a speech to a Women Impacting Nation (WIN) meeting, West blamed liberal women — “these Planned Parenthood women, the Code Pink women” — for “neutering American men and bringing us to the point of this incredible weakness.” Such women were fighting “to have our men become subservient,” West said, before bizarrely adding that this new-found subservience would continue to make the nation’s debt and deficits grow.
    West compared conservative women to Spartans, asking them to “raise strong men”: In the same speech, West compared conservative women to the women of Sparta, who he claimed were the real strength behind the men of the ancient Greek city-state. The role of conservative women, West said, was to “raise strong men,” just as it was in Sparta. As Mediaite’s Frances Martel noted at the time, Spartan women had no political rights and were trained to be strong solely for the betterment of males. West’s comparison to Sparta implies that he believes “strong women are to raise strong men,” Martel wrote. “Strong women are not just to be, the way strong men are.”
    Allen West’s Women Problem | ThinkProgress

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tedminator View Post
    Broward/Palm Beach Sun-Sentinel | The West/Wasserman Schultz flap

    July 20, 2011 04:32 PM by Chan Lowe

    From a political junkie’s standpoint, we here in South Florida are treated to a deliciously abrasive congressional combination⎯adjoining districts represented by Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, a proud liberal and chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, and Rep. Allen West, the tea party champion who has been touted as Republican Vice-Presidential material. ...



    Looks like to 2 to 1 infavor of Debbs. Miami Herald says they both win. or both lost. depends on your point of view.



    Thx for posting those, Ted. Pretty interesting reads. The MH was pretty tough, no doubt. I knew both Wasserman-Schutlz and West were from South Florida, but I did not realize they were from adjoining districts. That is fascinating to me, a proud liberal plus DNC chair, and a proud Tea Partier, in adjoining districts! The communities must be vastly different, even if geographically proximate. Btw, he's been touted as VP material?? I had no idea (and the thought is terrifying, frankly).



    "From a political junkie’s standpoint, we here in South Florida are treated to a deliciously abrasive congressional combination⎯adjoining districts represented by Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, a proud liberal and chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, and Rep. Allen West, the tea party champion who has been touted as Republican Vice-Presidential material."

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    What a sexist pig this jerk is! He says since he's married and has two daughters he can't be sexist.

    Allen West’s Women Problem | ThinkProgress


    omg, this guy is an asshole !



    West contributed to a Florida magazine that called women “oral relief stations”: Before he was elected to Congress, West was a monthly contributor to “Miami Mike’s Wheels On The Road,” a biker magazine that billed itself as the “South Florida Biker’s Bible.” The magazine has featured multiple overtly misogynistic articles, including one asking readers to imagine having sex with Wasserman Schultz. At other times, the magazine’s writers referred to women as “oral relief stations,” complained about women who said “their knees hurt,” depicted women as servants of men, and suggested that they should wear “slave chokers” as accessories.


    West claimed liberal women were “neutering” American men and causing a crisis of leadership in America: In a speech to a Women Impacting Nation (WIN) meeting, West blamed liberal women — “these Planned Parenthood women, the Code Pink women” — for “neutering American men and bringing us to the point of this incredible weakness.” Such women were fighting “to have our men become subservient,” West said, before bizarrely adding that this new-found subservience would continue to make the nation’s debt and deficits grow.


    West compared conservative women to Spartans, asking them to “raise strong men”: In the same speech, West compared conservative women to the women of Sparta, who he claimed were the real strength behind the men of the ancient Greek city-state. The role of conservative women, West said, was to “raise strong men,” just as it was in Sparta. As Mediaite’s Frances Martel noted at the time, Spartan women had no political rights and were trained to be strong solely for the betterment of males. West’s comparison to Sparta implies that he believes “strong women are to raise strong men,” Martel wrote. “Strong women are not just to be, the way strong men are.”

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