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    U.S. court approves warrantless searches of cell phones

    U.S. court approves warrantless searches of cell phones

    Of course they do, what else would one expect in a fascist society?

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    Well, that headline sounds bad, but when you read the story, you find out that they are limited to searching for the cell phone number of the cell phone, and that is it. Not seeing the problem with finding out the cell phone's number for identification purposes. The bolded part at the end of the following excerpt in on point:


    ... The case gave the court an occasion to examine just how far police can go when it comes to searching electronic gadgets.

    "Lurking behind this issue is the question whether and when a laptop or desktop computer, tablet, or other type of computer (whether called a 'computer' or not) can be searched without a warrant," Judge Richard Posner wrote for the three-judge panel.

    He raised the example of the iCam, which allows someone to use a phone to connect to a home-computer web camera, enabling someone to search a house interior remotely.

    "At the touch of a button, a cell phone search becomes a house search," he wrote.

    Posner compared the cell phone to a diary. Just as police are entitled to open a pocket diary to copy an owner's address, they should be able to turn on a cell phone to learn its number, he wrote. But just as they're forbidden from examining love letters tucked between the pages of an address book, so are they forbidden from exploring letters in the files of a phone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    Well, that headline sounds bad, but when you read the story, you find out that they are limited to searching for the cell phone number of the cell phone, and that is it. Not seeing the problem with finding out the cell phone's number for identification purposes. The bolded part at the end of the following excerpt in on point:
    "Lurking behind this issue is the question whether and when a laptop or desktop computer, tablet, or other type of computer (whether called a 'computer' or not) can be searched without a warrant," Judge Richard Posner wrote for the three-judge panel.

    He raised the example of the iCam, which allows someone to use a phone to connect to a home-computer web camera, enabling someone to search a house interior remotely.
    "At the touch of a button, a cell phone search becomes a house search," he wrote.
    First of all, just because Reuters says they can examine your pocket diary doesn't make it so.

    There is nothing from stopping these criminals from downloading all your files, and just because Posner says so doesn't make it so.

    This is a clear violation of the 4th and 5th amendment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michaelr View Post
    First of all, just because Reuters says they can examine your pocket diary doesn't make it so.

    There is nothing from stopping these criminals from downloading all your files, and just because Posner says so doesn't make it so.

    This is a clear violation of the 4th and 5th amendment.

    Reuters didn't say it, the judge writing the opinion did. It's a quote from the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    Reuters didn't say it, the judge writing the opinion did. It's a quote from the case.
    It isn't legal for them to open your diaries. What is the matter with you people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by michaelr View Post
    It isn't legal for them to open your diaries. What is the matter with you people?

    Ehrm, your own source says you are wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    Ehrm, your own source says you are wrong.
    You say that like I don't know that. The problem with this country, one of the problems, is people will believe anything. They have zero right to search diaries, laptops, cell phones, none of it is open to them for inspection. Now that changes if we allow it, and having this idiot judge just say it is a way of going about that.

    This is fascism.

    It only surprises me this judge didn't say they have the right to inspect your wallet or purse, but some would allow that as well.

    I swear people are in a trance.

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