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    Read up: truth and lies about Medicare

    I know, I know: "mainstream media." Well, bring your own sources if you refute it...


    Republican attacks on President Obamaís plans for Medicare are growing more heated and inaccurate by the day. Both Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan made statements last week implying that the Affordable Care Act would eviscerate Medicare when in fact the law should shore up the programís finances.

    Both men have also twisted themselves into knots to distance themselves from previous positions, so that voters can no longer believe anything they say. Last week, both insisted that they would save Medicare by pumping a huge amount of money into the program, a bizarre turnaround for supposed fiscal conservatives out to rein in federal spending. The likelihood that they would stand by that irresponsible pledge after the election is close to zero. And the likelihood that they would be better able than Democrats to preserve Medicare for the future (through a risky voucher system that may not work well for many beneficiaries) is not much better.


    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/19/op...pagewanted=all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davocrat View Post
    I know, I know: "mainstream media." Well, bring your own sources if you refute it...
    They can't refute it and they know it. The GOP has been lying about Ryan's Medicare proposals since he was picked by Rmoney. And lying about what the ACA would do to help Medicare as well.

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    An op-ed as a source to know the truth and lies about Medicare reform?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
    An op-ed as a source to know the truth and lies about Medicare reform?
    Refute it if you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
    An op-ed as a source to know the truth and lies about Medicare reform?
    I know one thing, I'm not yet 55 and I don't want to go broke with my preexisting condition. You thought Ayn Rand was selfish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davocrat View Post
    I know one thing, I'm not yet 55 and I don't want to go broke with my preexisting condition. You thought Ayn Rand was selfish.
    The Ryan Medicare reform would not cover preexisting conditions? I'm honestly asking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
    The Ryan Medicare reform would not cover preexisting conditions? I'm honestly asking.
    I was under the impression that you could not be denied Medicare under any circumstance except if you are very wealthy.

    If I Paid Medicare Taxes , Why Am I Being Denied Medicare?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shanty View Post
    Refute it if you can.
    Refute an op-Ed. Ok... The op Ed is lying. That was easy.

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    I believe Davocrat's point is that he'd like for Medicare to be around after he's too old to work anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    I believe Davocrat's point is that he'd like for Medicare to be around after he's too old to work anymore.
    Medicare will still be around even if the Ryan plan is implemented, and as far as I understand it will still cover preexisting conditions.

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