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    Hillary. Just who does she think she is?

    Michael Kinsey writes about what he calls “Hillary Clinton’s ego trips,” and proves that there’s no way you approach your professional life and responsibilities as a woman that won’t be held against you. His main complaint seems to be that Hillary Clinton thinks she’s so big:
    The world is a better place because of Hillary Rodham Clinton’s tenure as secretary of state. That’s not the question. The question is whether it is a better place because of those last 20 hours of her 80-hour work week. Or because of the extra miles she flew to distant capitals?
    On one trip in 2009, according to the New York Times, “she traveled from talks with Palestinian leaders in Abu Dhabi to a midnight meeting with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in Jerusalem, then boarded a plane for Morocco, staying up all night to work on other issues, before going straight to a meeting of Arab leaders the next morning.”
    Very impressive, but did it bring us any closer to peace in the Middle East?
    Kind of strange, don’t you think? Has anyone ever written about a man that he worked too hard or was just too dedicated to his job, let alone that his dedication was a form of self-aggrandizement?
    He goes on to write that she looks like a 65 year old woman. The reaction of the author of this blog post:

    Yeah–she’s the U.S. Secretary of State! She should just sit back, relax, and bake up some vegan, gluten-free cookies or something. She doesn’t need to log all of those flight miles–she can just Skype Angela Merkel or Abu Mazen from Chappaqua if something comes up.
    The last comment of the author of this post:

    (Confidential to Mike: we’re all working ourselves to death, pal. It’s the unavoidable last stop on the line for all of us. The only choice is will we do something useful and try to serve others, or will we write insulting bull$hit like your article and this blog post? I don’t mean to be ungallant, but the difference between you and me is that writing insulting bull$hit isn’t my day job. It’s just a hobby!)
    Just who does she think she is? : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present

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    Sounds like she takes her Job serious.

    Sometimes a PERSONAL face to face is better than a SKYPE meeting.

    She looks 65??? So what?? Isn't she 65???

    If anything I am now 100% behind her for 2016.

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    yes she is 64 or 65 lol

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    What a moronic piece of writing!

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    Everyone seems to be missing the point...
    Very impressive, but did it bring us any closer to peace in the Middle East?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    He goes on to write that she looks like a 65 year old woman. The reaction of the author of this blog post:



    The last comment of the author of this post:



    Just who does she think she is? : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present
    Michael Kinsey is very left leaning. In his article he is admiring her (Clinton) efforts and stamina but questioning her physically exhausting approach to the job.

    The backlash from the second article (as well as this thread) are a little bizarre....

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    I don't get the point.

    It's not like a women never worked before.

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    There's a famous story about Lawrence Olivier and Dustin Hoffman on the set of Marathon Man. To get into character as a guy who stayed up all night, Hoffman would stay up all night before the shoot. So Olivier asked him, "Why not try acting? It's so much easier."
    The point is that the amount of effort that's put into a job is secondary. It's the end result that counts. We can commend people for putting a lot of effort into a job if that's what it takes to get the job done. But if the goal isn't met, then "trying" doesn't count for much in the real world. Any failure can say they did their best. It's getting the job done that matters. So the question really is did it bring us any closer to peace in the Middle East?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    There's a famous story about Lawrence Olivier and Dustin Hoffman on the set of Marathon Man. To get into character as a guy who stayed up all night, Hoffman would stay up all night before the shoot. So Olivier asked him, "Why not try acting? It's so much easier."
    The point is that the amount of effort that's put into a job is secondary. It's the end result that counts. We can commend people for putting a lot of effort into a job if that's what it takes to get the job done. But if the goal isn't met, then "trying" doesn't count for much in the real world. Any failure can say they did their best. It's getting the job done that matters. So the question really is did it bring us any closer to peace in the Middle East?
    imo, it's the wrong question.

    Do you think that peace in the middle east is so trivial that it can be achieved without much effort? Clinton is working her ass off because it's what it takes. Every path doesn't have a short cut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief View Post
    imo, it's the wrong question.

    Do you think that peace in the middle east is so trivial that it can be achieved without much effort? Clinton is working her ass off because it's what it takes. Every path doesn't have a short cut.
    It's the only question that matters. If, hypothetically, there was someone who could bring peace to the Middle East lounging around the house in pajamas all day like Hefner, then I'd want him in the job.
    I know for whatever criticisms we have for Washington politicians, and there are plenty. Lots and lots. But if nothing else, you can't call these people lazy. It's just not the environment for it. You just don't make it in DC otherwise. They all work hard. That criticism is off the table; Democrat, Republican, whatever AFAIC. So the only thing to discuss is the end result of their work.

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