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    Yeah, about all that tyranny "shit." This from a liberal news organization the atlantic.

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    The Biggest Obama Scandals Are Proven and Ignored
    There is clear evidence that he has broken the law on multiple occasions. And not even Republicans seem to care.

    .......Has this president broken the law, lied under oath, or authorized war crimes?

    Yes, President Obama has broken the law on multiple occasions. Despite clearly stating, in a 2008 questionnaire, that the commander-in-chief is not lawfully empowered to ignore treaties duly ratified by the Senate, Obama has willfully failed to enforce the torture treaty, signed by Ronald Reagan and duly ratified by the Senate, that compels him to investigate and prosecute torture. As Sullivan put it earlier this year, "what Obama and Holder have done (or rather not done) is illegal."

    Obama also violated the War Powers Resolution, a law he has specifically proclaimed to be Constitutionally valid, when committing U.S. troops to Libya without Congressional approval. Or as Sullivan put it in 2011, "I'm with Conor. The war in Libya becomes illegal from now on. And the imperial presidency grows even more powerful."

    On the subject of war crimes, Sullivan wrote that "Obama and attorney-general Eric Holder have decided to remain in breach of the Geneva Conventions and be complicit themselves in covering up the war crimes of their predecessors - which means, of course, that those of us who fought for Obama's election precisely because we wanted a return to the rule of law were conned." In a separate entry, he went so far as to say that Obama is "a clear and knowing accessory to war crimes, and should at some point face prosecution as well, if the Geneva Conventions mean anything any more." That seems rather farther than Noonan went in her column.

    Obama has not, as Sullivan points out, traded arms for hostages with Iran, or started a war with no planning for the inevitable occupation that would follow. But there are different questions that could be asked about Obama that would perhaps be more relevant to his behavior.

    Has he ordered the assassination of any American citizens in secret without due process? Did he kill any of their teenage kids without ever explaining how or why that happened?

    Has he refused to reveal even the legal reasoning he used to conclude his targeted killing program is lawful?

    Has he waged an unprecedented war on whistleblowers?

    Has he spied on millions of innocent Americans without a warrant or probable cause?

    Does he automatically count dead military-aged males killed by U.S. drones as "militants"?

    Did he "sign a bill that enshrines in law the previously merely alleged executive power of indefinite detention without trial of terror suspects"?

    There is more, as Sullivan knows, and it all amounts to a scandalous presidency, even if it happens that few Republicans care about the most scandalous behavior, and have instead spent almost a year* now obsessing about Benghazi. The IRS scandal and Department of Justice leak-investigation excesses are worrisome, but the biggest scandals definitely go all the way to the top, and are still largely ignored even by commentators who have acknowledged that they're happening. Sullivan has noted the stories as they broke, and seemed, for fleeting moments, to confront their gravity, noting the violation of very serious laws, and even once stating that Obama deserves to be prosecuted! Yet in response to Noonan, he writes, "So far as I can tell, this president has done nothing illegal, unethical or even wrong." How inexplicably they forget.And Sullivan is hardly alone. At the New York Times, Mother Jones, The New Yorker, and beyond, exceptional journalists take great care to document alarming abuses against the rule of law, the separation of powers, transparency, and human rights perpetrated by the Obama Administration. On a given subject, the coverage leaves me awed and proud to be part of the same profession. But when it comes time for synthesis, bad heuristics take over. Confronted with the opportunism and absurdity of the GOP, Obama's sins are forgiven, as if he should be graded on a curve. His sins are forgotten, as if "this president has done nothing illegal, unethical or even wrong."

    Yes. He. Has.
    I think presidents breaking the law is a trend. Each time the crimes are more egregious than the former and will continue so until the people hold them accountable. After Nixon, all future presidents know that no matter the crime and even if they have to leave office they will not go to jail or face execution. Neither party wants to start the process probably because both are just as corrupt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueneck View Post
    I'd prefer an economy that grows slowly and steadily as opposed to one that yo yos up and down.
    True but if it doesn't grow strong enough to cover the nations debts then spending needs to be cut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nonsqtr View Post
    Extremist progressives are much more dangerous, because they don't recognize Constitutional boundaries.
    I can't say as I know of any"progressives" but if they are extremists then they are part of the terror problem. But i will say conservatives are the worst offenders of terrorist plots and schemes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Friday13 View Post
    "Conservatives" want all the benefits of "big government" without paying for it...
    Not me. I would much prefer freedom from this government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nonsqtr View Post
    Yeah really, Shanty?
    If you don't have any clue what you're getting into, maybe you should keep yer yap shut.

    Are you trying to fan the flames to start it up again?
    Last edited by Shanty; 29th June 2013 at 04:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Not me. I would much prefer freedom from this government.
    Maybe this can help you. It's guaranteed.
    Last edited by Shanty; 29th June 2013 at 04:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by April15 View Post
    I can't say as I know of any"progressives" but if they are extremists then they are part of the terror problem. But i will say conservatives are the worst offenders of terrorist plots and schemes.
    I'm a liberal. Or a progressive. Whatever.

    The closest I come to calling for violence is peaceful protest and going to the ballot box to cast your vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    Riiiiiight. Because Obama and the Democrats are doing such a kickass job with the economy.

    Cue the excuses...
    Republicans and Democrats alike have corporatist policies. From Clinton and NAFTA to Bush/Cheney's bank bailouts and oil wars in Iraq to the present day corporatist policies of the Obama Administration. It is a big mistake to blame Obama over anyone else. It is the corporatist system that he, just like the past 4 presidential administrations, is a part of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael J View Post
    Republicans and Democrats alike have corporatist policies. From Clinton and NAFTA to Bush/Cheney's bank bailouts and oil wars in Iraq to the present day corporatist policies of the Obama Administration. It is a big mistake to blame Obama over anyone else. It is the corporatist system that he, just like the past 4 presidential administrations, is a part of.
    Yet there are many who would argue that we are not slipping into fascism and corporations have rights.

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