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    Are Voting Decisions Your Own?

    I stopped at the gas station this morning for a Pepsi, and I was wearing a shirt with a picture of Obama shrugging his shoulders that said "Guess He Can't". The lady who rang me up laughed and said "yeah, I knew he couldn't several years ago". We then briefly discussed the oblivious voters who basically vote by looking down the ballot and saying "eenie weenie minee mo", and others just vote Republican or Democratic because everyone in their family told them to.

    How do you vote? Do you vote for candidate A simply because you dislike candidate B? If so, I can't say I recommend that, for I am so very sick and tired of voting for the lesser of two evils. I learned my lesson from the 2004 Presidential Election. I hated Bush so much that I would have voted for literally any Democrat. Well, it turned out Corporatist John Kerry was just a literate version of the 43rd U.S. President. Boy, that election sucked. Then there was the last election with two Corporatist candidates, Barack Obama and Mitt Romney, and I said "to hell with the lesser of two evils" and voted for Jill Stein. Unfortunately, she won less than 1% of the vote.

    This is a problem that needs to be fixed pretty soon.

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    Obama is the one who woke me up politically, so you can blame him for that, too.

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    I vote according to the make-up of the Supreme Court and the justices that are likely to retire.

    I prefer exactly how it is now with a 5-4 conservative lead....you don't want it too conservative and you don't want it too liberal.

    Since most justices wait until their party's president is in control to retire and since Ginsburg has one foot in the grave, I'll probably vote democrat to get her replacement in.

    Its kind of tricky though because there are quite a few justices getting on in years but old ruth is pretty sick also.
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    04 was my wake up call too, I would have voted for anyone over Bush. So when 08 rolled around I knew better than to vote either major party candidate, because both parties mirror the same ideals and want the same direction for the nation to go in. I voted for Nader then, and in 2012 I voted for Johnson, but would gladly have voted for Stein as well.

    Can you imagine if Gary Johnson and Jill Stein had been the two major choices? Two opposing visions but both positive ones...it would have been an election where you could have felt positive and energetic about the winner no matter the outcome. Will we ever have an election where people vote not for the lesser of two evils, but the the better of two positives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    I vote according to the make-up of the Supreme Court and the justices that are likely to retire.

    I prefer exactly how it is now with a 5-4 conservative lead....you don't want it too conservative and you don't want it too liberal.

    Since most justices wait until their party's president is in control to retire and since Ginsburg has one foot in the grave, I'll probably vote democrat to get her replacement in.

    Its kind of tricky though because there are quite a few justices getting on in years but old ruth is pretty sick also.
    Justices? Those clowns in robes? They're brain dead. They're a disgrace to America and the Constitution of the United States. They should be hung from the neck till dead, that's the best possible outcome for those idiots. In a good world that would have happened already (like, thirty minutes after Citizens United, let's say) - but we don't live in a good world. We live in a rotten world, where people look up to these shit-for-brains idiots just 'cause they were appointed and confirmed by some other shit-for-brains fools.

    You look at the important rulings that have come down these last few years, and you read a few of the opinions and note the "logic" in them. If that's indicative of the state of our jurisprudence then we should shitcan the whole rotten system and start over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muninn View Post
    Can you imagine if Gary Johnson and Jill Stein had been the two major choices? Two opposing visions but both positive ones...it would have been an election where you could have felt positive and energetic about the winner no matter the outcome. Will we ever have an election where people vote not for the lesser of two evils, but the the better of two positives?
    I can only dream. Hopefully when we can overturn Citizens United.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nonsqtr View Post
    Justices? Those clowns in robes? They're brain dead. They're a disgrace to America and the Constitution of the United States. They should be hung from the neck till dead, that's the best possible outcome for those idiots. In a good world that would have happened already (like, thirty minutes after Citizens United, let's say) - but we don't live in a good world. We live in a rotten world, where people look up to these shit-for-brains idiots just 'cause they were appointed and confirmed by some other shit-for-brains fools.

    You look at the important rulings that have come down these last few years, and you read a few of the opinions and note the "logic" in them. If that's indicative of the state of our jurisprudence then we should shitcan the whole rotten system and start over.
    A little harsh, but content-wise you are correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nonsqtr View Post
    Justices? Those clowns in robes? They're brain dead. They're a disgrace to America and the Constitution of the United States. They should be hung from the neck till dead, that's the best possible outcome for those idiots. In a good world that would have happened already (like, thirty minutes after Citizens United, let's say) - but we don't live in a good world.
    So... thirty minutes after Citizens United, the justices of the Supreme Court should've been hung? That makes no sense. Do you mean the five who voted for it or the four who voted against it? Or do you mean all of them, regardless of what way they felt about it or voted on it?

    I'm sorry, but that comes off as the ramblings of someone holding on to the tattered edges of the fringe.
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    I don't vote at all. There's no difference between the two dominant parties. They're both criminal scum in my book...
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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    Do you mean the five who voted for it or the four who voted against it? Or do you mean all of them, regardless of what way they felt about it or voted on it?
    The ones who voted for the ruling.

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