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    The Liberals Also Attempted to Brainwash their Listeners to Support Obama escalating the wars Afganistan and Pakistan

    Following in the footsteps of other Foundation controlled "Progressives," Code Pink has changed its position on Afghanistan, (and by extension Pakistan) in her role as an "anti-war" leader when Obomber took office. Like her contemporaries in the Ford Foundation funded Progressive media who went out of their way to attack activists for their desire to protest against invading Iraq, (David Corn of the Nation mag), or activists speaking out obout 9/11 Truth, the JFK Assassination, (Howard Zinn, Alex Cockburn, Chomsky) and other Ford Foundation "activists"/"authors" who still LIE on a continual basis about the facts surrounding Obama wars in Libya, Syria, the Arab Spring regime changes by the State Dept. and the CIA, (notably Amy Goodman, Pacifica Radio, Chomsky, Juan Cole) by media icons who have consulted with CIA, or are funded by intelligence fronts like MIT, and Ford, find themselves increasingly under the microscope for their inconsistently formulated views on Middle East wars as a controlled asset would, (but consistently are timed along with policy escalations by the Presidents) to fit the predetermined narratives of their New World Order/ War Machine financiers and profiteers. With all respect to Medea Benjamin, who is a fine author and critic, very knowlegable and resourceful, I find this position in 2009 to be more than a little subservient to her Democrat Elites. With her service in support of Democrat candidates in the past noted, this post election support of Obamas escalation in Af-Pak would be outrageous even if she were an independant commentator, not an "anti-war" leader. Certainly the criticism was muted at best from Ford Foundation sources like Pacifca Radio, and Liberal media NPR,PBS (or outright endorsement promotion) when the decision was made you would be hard pressed to find any broadcast media attacking the Obama war policy. This leaves no doubt in my mind that Foundation funded Liberals, authors and activists are paid to reach conclusions, are academic frauds in service to imperialism, and actors who time public "outrages" accordingly. Af-Pak is, and was a serious international war crime, regardless on your views on 9/11, and 8 years of mass murder by President Bush, along with Iraq, bolstered by lies attempting to connect Saddam and Al Queda/ and bogus Sept.11th falsified reporting, and concocted WMD propaganda. Even one more U.S. jet bombing of either country under Obama in 2009 is unjustified considering the lack of evidence against both Pakistan and Afghanistan with regard to the WTC attacks, and indeed the U.S. Government planned both Iraq and Afghan wars well ahead of 9/11 it had been concretely proven.Code Pink and Medea Benjamin only changed their position to "pullout from Afghanistan in 2011 after Obamas heinous bloodbath was well under way, with disasterous results, including 600 wounded soldiers each month.

    "Nearly 600 U.S. servicemen, about 20 per day on average, have been wounded every month since May 2010. This is the painful reality of the fraudulent war in Afghanistan that the Obama administration has been hiding. "

    Christopher Bollyn

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    "How disgusting. Code Pink supports the mass murder of Afghans. Murder is apparently fine with Code Pink co-founder Medea Benjamin if it results in women’s rights."

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    Soros funded protest groups with controlled positions ???

    "But here’s what Tencer, Benjamin, and corporate media are not telling you — the Taliban was created by Pakistan’s ISI and the CIA ..." (with your tax dollars funding both Al Queda and Taliban before and after 9/11)

    » Code Pink Supports the Mass Murder of Afghans Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

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    Here after a fact finding mission to Afghanistan in 2009, she supports nation building while admitting that she wasn't allowed to talk to many civllians and was limited to embedded reporter type limitations

    "So yes: the U.S. pulls out and there could be tremendous chaos because of the lack of authentic support for this government. That’s why I feel we have to have a responsible exit strategy that includes pressure on this government to get rid of people who were responsible for crimes, to build up a justice system that can actually function."

    Is Medea Benjamin Naive or Just Confused? by Scott Horton -- Antiwar.com

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    'Code Pink' rethinks its call for Afghanistan pullout

    'Code Pink' rethinks its call for Afghanistan pullout - CSMonitor.com


    Code Pink changed its position to "pull out" of Af-Pak in 2011

    Code Pink: Get out of Afghanistan - USATODAY.com
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    Syria False Flag Witness Attacked By Govmnt Front Group

    Mother Agnes Mariam attacked ... by Human Rights Watch!

    Daniel McAdams

    Since when does a human rights organization are here to argue for a military attack, which will kill the dozen innocent civilians? For Human Rights Watch, all part of the work program. By the regime of the United States favored by America's "human rights" organization that has the time vowed to continue the for torture operated by the CIA program of "extraordinary rendition" of its predecessor by the Obama administration, let hair down to Obama's allegations to support that the Syrian government responsible for the chemical weapons attack on 21 August Wear near Damascus.

    When Obama was ready to give Syria a lesson by Tomahawk cruise missiles, Human Rights Watch world stood practically alone on the side of the President. The human rights group committed neither to helping the victims, nor for promoting international diplomatic efforts to end the crisis. Instead, she worked feverishly on an elaborate attempt to prove that the missiles with which the poison gas had been transported supposedly, could only have come from positions of the Syrian government. They had no observers on the spot, but detached from certain facts that the Syrian government had to be responsible. This is the work of a human rights group? To help a president about to justify a war?

    Human Rights Watch even repeated the lie that the report of the UN inspectors on the 21 August "clearly refers to the responsibility of the Syrian government for the attack." He does not, and the UN had no mandate to determine also, the responsibility for the attack, in fact. But that was the line of the Administration of the United States of America and HRW was determined to stay with this - even if the rest of the world gasped in disbelief.

    When the Russian effort to attack the United States of America against Syria - which undoubtedly would have killed many more people than loud statements on 21 Have been August killed by poison gas - avert, was finalized by a UN resolution that called for the destruction of chemical weapons and related equipment to the Syrian government, one would think that a human rights group would rejoice at that diplomacy has triumphed over war.

    Not as Human Rights Watch. The representative of the organization at the UN Philippe Bolopion sharply criticized the agreement and noted that "it does not ensure that justice is done enough."

    At this time, even President Obama was happy to have avoided a military conflict in Syria. Human Rights Watch does not.

    The organization has certainly not abandoned. A recent report by Mother Agnes Mariam of the Cross and its Institute for Peace, Justice and Human Rights meticulously refuted many of the photographic evidence that has been presented about the attack. After living in the country, she has interviewed the dozen victims of the attacks of the insurgents. The report of their organization raises serious questions arise as to whether those presented by the Government of the United States of America as the main evidence of the guilt of the Syrian government attack on the YouTube videos are manipulated or even falsified in its entirety. Mother Agnes Mariam, described by the BBC as "Syria's detective nun," now finds her work in a recent BBC article attacked, and guess by whom? ... properly, Human Rights Watch!

    Peter Bouckaert, "crisis manager" by Human Rights Watch, the non-resident in Syria, wipes Mother Agnes Mariam's work aside by stating succinctly that He continues "these allegations are unfounded.": "She is not a specialist for forensic video analysis. "She has of course never claimed. She just said that she has functioning eyes, which - among other differences - have noticed that some of the alleged victims of the attack in different places are seen to about the same time and that one need not be a "professional video analyst" to recognize that this is not possible.

    Human Rights Watch is a registered NGO pro-regime of the United States of America. You want to be the only voice on human rights issues, and thanks to their favored position and the huge budget they have great weight in these things. How often they can probably advertise torture and war before people stop listening to their lies?

    published on 2 October 2013

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    Both Dems/GOP are exactly the same Party.

    They just play the blame game for public consumption, donations, and media showbiz.

    This is fascism, where Big Business owns everone at PBS, NPR, and CBS ... where is "60 Minutes" aren't they going to expose how in Syria with regard to WMD "the intel was being fixed around the policy" AGAIN?(like Bush/ Cheney/ Scooter Libby did in Iraq) Thats because you don't have a FREE COUNTRY, you have this AMERICAN FASCISM.

    Its how "the Party" functions. (Dems/GOP are essentially ONE PARTY, THE BIG BROTHER STATE, PEPETUAL WAR PARTY) One hand blocks reform, the Democrats invariably roll over and play dead. Its a choreographed sideshow, while the govmnt stenographers in the media dance on string and write what they're told. Cable News is paid to perpetuate the Military Industrial Complex with manufactured threats like Iran "nuclear program" lie.

    Take this example from another Establishment, Ivy League twit:

    Rachel Maddow's Iran "Misinformation" (BIG LIE)

    Rachel Maddow's Iran Misinformation

    BTW - I was going to read about Syria over at PROJECT CENSORED, but the management over there wouldn't let them cover it. Even the Foundation funded Common Dreams "Progressive" blogs won't discuss the Libya,Syria false flags WMD lies or Obamas arming of the terrorists in Syria, Libya for two years, which even CODE PINK (funded by Soros) kept hidden. Why because they are Corporatized Astroturf Foundation fronts, like AlterNet, or Talking Points Memo, paid for by George Soros, who profits off said wars because he is on the board of Caryle and has numerous Big Defense/Big Oil stockholdings. Where is HuffingtonPost on all these war lies? Sold to the Corporatists while Arriana Huffinton lives high on the hog and Americans have fewer websites and newsgroups to excercise FREE SPEECH.





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    Look How many TV stations like Al Jazeera and radio shows (Tom Hartman, Mike Malloy, Pacifica Radio, Democracy Now, virtually all of the "Progressive" shows) use the Amnesty, Human Rights Watch groups to blame Assad for Americas Al Queda atrocities. Its complete reality reversal. An old trick - blaming the enemy for wars and terrorism caused by CIA trained mercenary thugs ... also these govmnt connected human rights groups "massage the numbers" (cut in half death casualty counts)

    Human Rights Watch in Service to the War Party

    Human Rights Watch in Service to the War Party: Including A Review of "Weighing the Evidence: Lessons from the Slobodan Milosevic Trial" (Human Rights Watch, December, 2006) by Edward S. Herman and David Peterson and George Szamuely


    Amnesty International, War Propaganda, and Human Rights Terrorism

    by Gearóid Ó Colmáin


    "Amnesty International is a war propaganda organization for imperialism. In fact, the majority of the most highly publicized human rights organisations in the West function as ideological indoctrination agencies for neo-colonialism and imperialism."

    Amnesty International, War Propaganda, and Human Rights Terrorism | Dissident Voice


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    Obama’s Syrian Press Pass: The Media are Loyal to the System, not to their Profession




    "The corporate media are the megaphones of humanitarian death, as dispensed by the U.S. and its allies. If Obama says “Assad must go,” the high-paid press do all in their power to make the public crave his blood. “The media are loyal to the system, not to their profession, their readers, or their listeners.”

    Obama?s Syrian Press Pass: The Media are Loyal to the System, not to their Profession | Global Research

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    Qatar: US Proxy in America’s Terror War in Syria
    By Phil Greaves

    "This information again sheds further light on a timeline of events in Syria that have been purposefully obscured within mainstream media to suit certain actors agendas, and to enable the false and misleading narrative of “Assad killing peaceful protesters” to become dominant in the discourse surrounding the Syrian conflict."

    Qatar: US Proxy in America?s Terror War in Syria | Global Research

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invayne View Post
    Syria: Why Hollywood's Anti-War Voices Are Quiet

    So there you have it. And I suspect a lot of people on this forum are feeling the same way although they won't admit it.
    I'm surprised at Asner for telling the truth. His typical position in the past has been that of a demented old kool-aid drinking reprobate. Obama must have cancelled his insurance.

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    Comedy clip spoofing the phony Progressive activists and Obama apologists

    Help Kickstart World War III!

    The Americans for Whatever Barack Obama Wants.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WisconsinCheesehead View Post
    Comedy clip spoofing the phony Progressive activists and Obama apologists

    Help Kickstart World War III!

    The Americans for Whatever Barack Obama Wants.


    You sure that's a spoof? ;-)

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    You sure that's a spoof? ;-)
    Art imitates life. This is the way they are.
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    Serial GOP hatchetman and constant purveyor of falsehoods gets on the Democrats and Liberal cases about objectivity ...sort of.

    Celebrity Silence on Syria By L. Brent Bozell III

    "The "mainstream" in the entertainment world sound like Robert DeNiro on CNN, "I know he'll make a decision and whatever decision he makes, I go with it."

    Celebrity Silence on Syria | Media Research Center

    I found DeNiros comments particularly disgusting, like Springsteens Obama campaign / election year appearances and campaign jingles ... "lets hear it for the man who got Osama" we just didn't get any photo evidence of it, Bruce.

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    The Vanishing 'Anti-War' Left By L. Brent Bozell III

    " So where is the anti-war movement now?

    “What anti-war movement?” former Congressman Dennis Kucinich asked when called for comment last week."

    and

    "Cindy Sheehan quipped that “The ‘anti-war left’ was used by the Democratic Party. I like to call it the ‘anti-Republican War’ movement.”

    The Vanishing 'Anti-War' Left | Media Research Center

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    Mike Malloy, formerly of the anti-war movement, and a radio host, now uses his show to discuss religion instead. And if he does discuss specifc Geneva Convention war crime violations they're only the Bush/Cheney ones. Where Bozelle gets it wrong is that he argues that the problems are financial with the anti-war movement. But its tabloidism, organizational issues and unethical censorship as well.PRN.fm is offering us the best broadcast information available regarding the most important issues in a time where all the news is controlled and censored, and with the death of free speech, as our outlets at Pacifica Radio, become more censored and other talk radio become mouthpieces for the Democratic Party than outlets of independant thought.

    There are some problems. The sheer volume of balance in choosing show topics appears to be out of whack at PRN. Too many shows are apolitical and devoid of hard news. Too many shows focus myopically on the economy. While opinions offered are in a very generalized sense, seemingly flowing from topic to topic , Stop NATO advocate Rick Rozoff will drift around name dropping aimlessly from Libya to Mali with no concrete facts, often doing comparative diversion to Vietnam or even Korea is not expecially conducive to the issues at hand, and often coming across as quite emasculated, and inept. Too few shows give current information on particulars of foreign policy - namely Obamas many and multiple wars. This is not acceptable. Not only do Americans need to know the anti-war position, but need continual updates of what is happening on the ground in any given conflict. They may wish to assign more foreign policy coverage to excellent hosts like Sandy Von Klein. Medea Benjamin has done drone lip service ad nauseum and has oversimplified the problem of foreign policy like 80% of her liberal media counterparts, wearing drones on her sleeve as her only talking point while ignoring Syria until the 11th hour. This collective behavior by hosts amounts to a sterilization of the facts in warfare as Obama proxy wars take on more horrific methods of killing civilliana by Al Queda. Superior intellects like Danny Schecter often leave out particulars and hard news except when a "crisis" arise like Syria airstrikes. Nevertheless, we see people pulling punches and censoring war crimes all across the spectrum of media, or watering down facts to protect Democratic Party or Liberal Elites. Honestly, the PRN channel has too much fluff for my taste as this blanket coverage of health, medicine, new age thought and philosophy can be found elsewhere on Pacifica or community public radio like KBOO, these stations for the most part are totally compromised and defunct anyway, essentially as useless as NPR. Liberalism and Progressive are so co-opted by Liberal Elites and Media hosts and reporters who are deliberately softening the tone, sanitizing the facts, and throwing rabbit punches at Obamas ruthless slaughter policies, that a channel like PRN would be useless were it not for Stephen Lendman. News Dissector, Global Research, and Project Censored are so inconsistent in their choice of topics along with Black Agenda Report show, to build a core antiwar movement to oppose particularly horrific Obama crimes like those in Syria and keep such an audience informed of massacres, rapes, and so forth, so that wars may be actively stopped BEFORE they become merely academic for COINTELRPO operators like Stephen Zunes to rationalize away, and actively lie about. Being wiser in your contributors is also reccomended as Ford Foundation liars hide the Big Oil and War agenda of their Foundation, NGO benefactors at Raytheon and Exxon. Closet war supporters and bought and paid for journalist hacks lying for the Elites permeate the Progressive activist groups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Invayne View Post
    You sure that's a spoof? ;-)
    It was the Russians who had at least enough sense to stop the Obama airstrikes with a diplomatic initiative.

    But they don't want to give the Russians any credit, just like the rest of the Liberals in media, Mike Malloy had to knock Putin for his NYT op-ed ignoring the good will of his contributions, as did that apologist for Washingtons mass slaughter, Jon Stewart who also attacked Russia in a hit piece just like some lackey for the Democrat Party. Both hosts acted like: "How dare you criticize our black President!" What a couple of dickless wonders.
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