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    This cartoon got a dude fired today



    Mocking these wankers:



    Belarus, Turkey, North Korea. And now Israel as the next opressive country under Pewtin's umbrella, lost in cults about past glory, refusing all reality, blind from blood.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ahu-caricature
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    Doesnt seem like an antijew cartoon to me. Actually very well done imo.
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    He should not have been fired.

    But this is the Middle East, and things work differently out there. By contrast, consider Akram Raslan. He was a cartoonist in Syria, whose works resulted in him being arrested, tortured, and executed in 2013. In 2015, artist Atena Farghadani of Iran got off easier ... her cartoon resulted in a 12-year prison sentence. Someone on PH suggested that Turkey was a reasonable model of democracy... however, Dogan Güzel might disagree. In 2016, he was among the journalists arrested in the government raid on the Kurdish newspaper Özgür Gündem in Istanbul. I'm not sure if he's still incarcerated, but his cartoons have landed him in prison on several occasions. In Iran, cartoonist Salman Abed is still in hiding - not sure if he's imprisoned. I'm sure I could find more examples by swapping Middle-Eastern country names when running Google searches.

    So while I agree that Avi Katz should not have been fired, it's part of the risk of being a cartoonist in the Middle East.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    He should not have been fired.

    But this is the Middle East, and things work differently out there. By contrast, consider Akram Raslan. He was a cartoonist in Syria, whose works resulted in being arrested, tortured, and executed in 2013. In 2015, artist Atena Farghadani of Iran got off easier ... her cartoon resulted in a 12-year prison sentence. Someone on PH suggested that Turkey was a reasonable model of democracy... however, Dogan Güzel might disagree. In 2016, he was among the journalists arrested in the government raid on the Kurdish newspaper Özgür Gündem in Istanbul. I'm not sure if he's still incarcerated, but his cartoons have landed him in prison on several occasions. In Iran, cartoonist Salman Abed is still in hiding - not sure if he's imprisoned. I'm sure I could find more examples by swapping Middle-Eastern country names when running Google searches.

    So while I agree that Avi Katz should not have been fired, it's part of the risk of being a cartoonist in the Middle East.
    I guess Israel just stared into the abyss for too fucking long ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tedminator View Post
    Doesnt seem like an antijew cartoon to me. Actually very well done imo.
    The artist Avi Katz is Jewish hisself, so that don't make any sense.

    I particularly like this one:

    http://www.cartooningforpeace.org/en...eurs/avi-katz/
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    Quote Originally Posted by CEngelbrecht View Post


    Mocking these wankers:



    Belarus, Turkey, North Korea. And now Israel as the next opressive country under Pewtin's umbrella, lost in cults about past glory, refusing all reality, blind from blood.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ahu-caricature
    Especially, that he included the Orwell quote, the caricature was clearly meant in that context. Because the pigs are in charge, and make up rules as they go.

    I agree that it's absurd that this should have the guy fired.

    Oh well, I guess that's tolerance today, can't risk someone being offended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CEngelbrecht View Post
    I guess Israel just stared into the abyss for too fucking long ...
    Is there any evidence (not "proof" - just evidence) to suggest that the Israeli government had a hand in firing the cartoonist? As best I can tell, it was the decision of the Jerusalem Post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CEngelbrecht View Post
    The artist Avi Katz is Jewish hisself, so that don't make any sense.

    I particularly like this one:

    AVI KATZ - Cartooning for Peace
    That’s outstanding.

    I imagine he won’t be out of work for long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Is there any evidence (not "proof" - just evidence) to suggest that the Israeli government had a hand in firing the cartoonist? As best I can tell, it was the decision of the Jerusalem Post.
    Is there any evidence that anyone blamed the Israeli government.

    The Jerusalem Post is part of 'Israel'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    Is there any evidence that anyone blamed the Israeli government.

    The Jerusalem Post is part of 'Israel'.
    Is it? If McDonald's franchise fires an employee over something frivolous, should the United States of America be blamed? Are the actions of the McDonald's franchise owner automatically reflective of our nation?

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