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    Quote Originally Posted by grinder View Post
    Aboutenough, aren't you concerned that you come across as a bit loopy with this easily-discredited nonsense, and your selective attention to SOME types of sinners but never others? I only ask because if your real goal was to undermine Christianity you could scarcely be doing a better job.
    this is not based on my opinion. There is links to all the references to God. You have to hide history to win this argument

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    Our constitution specifically "Prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion". The country may have been founded by primarily christians but they made sure it would not be a "christian" nation but a nation where you practice any religion you so choose.

    why does the use of the word god mean christian? I think just about every religion out there has it's "god" and maybe they used the word to make sure everyone knew they were NOT talking about any one in particular. If it was only christian why isn't there some reference to Jesus or christianity?
    Christianity was the only religion at that time. You injecting 21st century information into our beginnings. I am just showing the beginnings as they were

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    Blabbering bullshit for what purpose I do not know. We were not founded as a "christian" nation we were founded as a nation where you could practice any religion you choose. The founders made sure that if you thought christianity was a load of shit and wanted to practice something else you were free to do so. if we were founded as a "christian" nation you would not be allowed to do that.
    there was no other religions at that time. Your injecting your theories on what they thought was to come 200 years later

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Please... That's called "preamble," and has no more meaning than "In the Year of Our Lord" in in references to the date. The treaty itself consists of ten articles, none of which have anything to do with Christianity, or any other religion.

    Nice try, though.
    Would a secularist verbalize the term, In the Year of our Lord? Never

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    Bullshit, no one denies the word "God" is used in the DOI. They deny it was used in the Constituion.
    They deny that our nation was founded by Christians on Christian principles while there is evidence everywhere that is was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    Would a secularist verbalize the term, In the Year of our Lord? Never
    The Pope had way more to do with your western culture and beliefs than the founding fathers did. You and your thinking and your rituals are a millennia long influence of the The Holy Roman Catholic Church.

    You are more a Catholic than a patriot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    My definition of proof and your definition must be similar to Bill Clintons definition of the word , IS
    Your definition collides with the juggernaut of reality so often, we're still waiting for you to offer any.
    Last edited by Dangermouse; 13th September 2015 at 01:59 PM.
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    Proof that the founding fathers never intended us to have digital watches:


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    Proof That America Was Founded As A Christian Nation

    Were it true that the United States was founded as a "Christian nation" (and I in no way concede that this assertion is true), that would have no relevance whatsoever in the 21st century. It is known with absolute certainty that the United States was formed as a nation that allowed legal slavery, treated women and non-white people as second-class citizens and only allowed land owning, white, male citizens the right to vote.

    We aren't going back to the 18th century. It's simply not going to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    Does not mean our country was not formed on Christian principles.
    It wasn't. There is nothing of any religious law in the Constitution, or even the Declaration of Independence, whatsoever. That's all made up.
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