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    You misspelled, "idiot."
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    Quit trolling please.
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    It can be a form of government however and that's the context I was using it in. Nazi Germany used the military to attain other goals, a militaristic ideology focuses all state functions on the military regardless of what's going on. Everyone in the state lives to support the military. Machiavelli explained this in "The Prince".
    Machiavelli predates many ideological experiments. Nazi Germany was a militaristic society, every historian will tell you that. It sticks out like a third testicle on a greyhound!

    The Railways, Police and other services had special powers and were reorganized like the military, and most policy was focussed upon the eventual war. Please do NOT try to tell me Germany wasn't militaristic, as I will have no respect for you as an historian.

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    Machiavelli predates many ideological experiments. Nazi Germany was a militaristic society, every historian will tell you that. It sticks out like a third testicle on a greyhound!

    The Railways, Police and other services had special powers and were reorganized like the military, and most policy was focussed upon the eventual war. Please do NOT try to tell me Germany wasn't militaristic, as I will have no respect for you as an historian.
    Nazi Germany was militaristic but they were most definitely not a militaristic society.

    That was not their goal and had they won the war it would have stopped. Militarism revolves around pure military even in times of peace.

    However I will give you this, any society has many elements and its even necessary for their survival. Places like Cuba incorporate socialism and capitalism because its what they have to do for survival. You will never, in the history of societies, find one that stuck to one exact ideology.

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    In my opinion a technocracy would be the best way to guide a society forward. A nation led by experts is far better than one guided by politicians or aristocrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Nazi Germany was militaristic but they were most definitely not a militaristic society.
    Incorrect.

    That was not their goal and had they won the war it would have stopped.
    Speculative.

    Militarism revolves around pure military even in times of peace.
    Correct.

    However I will give you this, any society has many elements and its even necessary for their survival. Places like Cuba incorporate socialism and capitalism because its what they have to do for survival. You will never, in the history of societies, find one that stuck to one exact ideology.
    Indeed. Rome and Germany were both militaristic, but with differing ideologies. If you start making subtle social distinctions, I can then prove Sparta wasn't militaristic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blues63 View Post
    Incorrect.



    Speculative.



    Correct.



    Indeed. Rome and Germany were both militaristic, but with differing ideologies. If you start making subtle social distinctions, I can then prove Sparta wasn't militaristic.
    Fair enough but now you are just splitting hairs.

    You are intelligent enough to get my overall point.

    Ideologies are not exact. I could show you how King James I practiced communism if I wanted to.

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    In my opinion a technocracy would be the best way to guide a society forward. A nation led by experts is far better than one guided by politicians or aristocrats.

    I agree, but it will be the politicians that appoint the technocrats. Anyway, as pointed out on page one, the Peter principle will come into effect.

    "In time, every post tends to be occupied by an employee who is incompetent to carry out its duties"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Fair enough but now you are just splitting hairs.
    That is what you were doing by stating Nazi Germany wasn't militaristic. That is why I said by using your tactics I can demonstrate Sparta wasn't militaristic, and I could do that by splitting hairs like you did.

    You are intelligent enough to get my overall point.
    Yes, I understand and I have not demonstrated any misunderstanding.

    Ideologies are not exact.
    Fucking finally!


    I could show you how King James I practiced communism if I wanted to.
    I truly doubt that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blues63 View Post
    I agree, but it will be the politicians that appoint the technocrats. Anyway, as pointed out on page one, the Peter principle will come into effect.

    "In time, every post tends to be occupied by an employee who is incompetent to carry out its duties"
    You could avoid the peter principle by more rapid change in positions. This is why I also said that a set of term limits for any position would probably be required.

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