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    dunno, there. is "assembled in the USA" the same as "made in the USA"?
    No, they aren't the same thing. However, assembled in the USA is better than just an outright product of Japan, China, or Mexico. Some things will never have the Made in the USA logo again because those industries no longer exist in this country. Those factories are gone and so is the skill set to manufacture them. The back of the Apple Magic Mouse on my desk says, "Designed in California" then right below that it says, "Assembled in China".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    All three of those are the reasons that most of us do not even check for tags any longer. What if there was a concerted effort, maybe even led by the White House to look to American made products first? I had an orange for a snack this morning. When I went to Publix, I actually chose the California orange over the Mexican orange. The cost was 20˘ higher. Somehow I do not think it was labor on that one.
    I don't know what the reason is, but the minimum wage in Mexico is ≈$3.80 a day. I'm sure there are probably fruit pickers here being paid under the table for less than the US minimum wage, but I seriously doubt any of them are making anywhere near that little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StanStill View Post
    I don't know what the reason is, but the minimum wage in Mexico is ≈$3.80 a day. I'm sure there are probably fruit pickers here being paid under the table for less than the US minimum wage, but I seriously doubt any of them are making anywhere near that little.
    Fruit pickers are paid based upon what they pick. It's a piece rate job. While the fruit picked may pay less south of the border than north of the border, there is the additional transportation costs to deal with to get it to the markets. In addition, minimum wage in Mexico is currently 70 pesos a day which is about $4.05
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    Fruit pickers are paid based upon what they pick. It's a piece rate job. While the fruit picked may pay less south of the border than north of the border, there is the additional transportation costs to deal with to get it to the markets. In addition, minimum wage in Mexico is currently 70 pesos a day which is about $4.05
    Okay, an extra quarter a day. Got it.
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    Okay, an extra quarter a day. Got it.
    That's the minimum wage. You still don't know what the guy picking oranges is paid. You don't know what the land cost. The fertilizer, the arborist, etc. And actually it is now 73.04 Mexican Pesos a day as of January 1, 2016. And since the Peso has taken a dive since Trump took office it only comes to $3.52 per day. Thanks Trump. (You know that doesn't have the same ring to it as Thanks Obama)

    http://www.conasami.gob.mx/pdf/tabla...01_01_2016.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    I'd like to buy American more often. But it winds up being either too difficult, too expensive, or poor quality.

    I don't think ANY smartphones are made in the United States.
    Actually, my last one was (assembled in the US). It was a Motorola. They really were pushing the made in the US angle, and then 6 months later, Lenovo bought the cellphone division and moved everything to China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonehead View Post
    dunno, there. is "assembled in the USA" the same as "made in the USA"?
    No, I bought a Vizio because I was told it was Made in the USA? I found it was assembled here,parts made over seas.

    I am now looking for Smart TV. Any suggestions?

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    Actually, my last one was (assembled in the US). It was a Motorola. They really were pushing the made in the US angle, and then 6 months later, Lenovo bought the cellphone division and moved everything to China.
    Which is kind of odd because Lenovo actually builds most of their computers in the USA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    I look for the Made In America,especially in appliances. My old AO Smith water heater that lasted from 1983 until last year was made right here in Ohio. My plumber quit using them after they went over seas because the insides did not last. I now have another brand, made here.
    AO Smith does not import any tank type residential water heaters from overseas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    There was a time in this country that we looked for that "Made in the U.S.A." on the products that we purchased. That label was a sign of pride. It was a symbol of quality. Somewhere over the decades that has faded. This morning I heard a commercial for My Pillow.

    • The founder of the company, Michael J Lindell brags in the commercial that he does all of his own manufacturing in his home state of Minnesota.
    • Rob Cheng of PC Matic proudly says in his commercials that all their tech support, sales, and operations are in the USA.


    When I needed an additional vehicle recently, I bought a Hyundai Elantra Limited. One of the things that I liked about it was that it was assembled in the USA. What would it take to get a Made in America campaign to be successful in today's world? My Mac Pro was assembled in Texas. (We still count that as American made.) Do we even look for the American made tags? My sweater is made by Ralph Lauren - Polo and is from Sri Lanka. My watch made by Apple is made in China. The phone on my desk is a Toshiba, made in Malaysia. The Pilot pen that I used to sign things this morning? Japan. The Voss water that I drink too much of? Norway.

    What if I changed to buying American made sweaters, pens, phones, and water? What if many people changed to purchasing American made products? Could we make a difference? Carrier Air Conditioner is just one example of a company that staying in this country saves a thousand jobs. What if Apple brought assembly back to the USA? Think of how many workers are employed by Foxconn in China where our iPhones, iPads, Kindles, Nintendo DS, Playstations, Xboxes, Nokias, and BlackBerries are made. Imagine if that was done here in this country.
    I usually buy the best and if it's from the USA that's great, if it isn't, then I won't.

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