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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    Fruit pickers are paid based upon what they pick. It's a piece rate job. While the fruit picked may pay less south of the border than north of the border, there is the additional transportation costs to deal with to get it to the markets. In addition, minimum wage in Mexico is currently 70 pesos a day which is about $4.05
    The same goes for Foreign made products. That is why many moved back here,Shipping costs were worse than decent pay for the worker here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    If it was assembled in the United States could automation play a part in reducing those costs? The Apple Mac Pro is built in the USA, most Lenovo (formerly IBM) computers are assembled in the USA. So there are people doing it and they are competitive price wise for comparable hardware.
    1. If automation in the US would be competitive against cheap manual labor off-shore, the greed of the US corporations would sure have them do it already.

    2. Even IF they would do it, I don't see how the automated assembly of a car in the US creates manufacturing jobs, you might want to explain your idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    That's the minimum wage. You still don't know what the guy picking oranges is paid. You don't know what the land cost. The fertilizer, the arborist, etc. And actually it is now 73.04 Mexican Pesos a day as of January 1, 2016. And since the Peso has taken a dive since Trump took office it only comes to $3.52 per day. Thanks Trump. (You know that doesn't have the same ring to it as Thanks Obama)

    http://www.conasami.gob.mx/pdf/tabla...01_01_2016.pdf
    You're right I don't know what the orange picker is paid. The point is that fruit pickers don't make about minimum wage here, and ten or twenty times the minimum wage in Mexico. They make about minimum wage there too. It's not exactly skilled labor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    I own an American Made Santa Fe and a Diesel truck built by the Italian Company Dodge.
    I drive a BMW that was made in Germany.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    Which is kind of odd because Lenovo actually builds most of their computers in the USA.
    And yet, its a Chinese company. {shrug}

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    Which is kind of odd because Lenovo actually builds most of their computers in the USA.
    How'd you know ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    Fruit pickers are paid based upon what they pick. It's a piece rate job. While the fruit picked may pay less south of the border than north of the border, there is the additional transportation costs to deal with to get it to the markets. In addition, minimum wage in Mexico is currently 70 pesos a day which is about $4.05
    Fruit pickers aren't paid minimum wage here and I doubt the Mexican minimum there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    No, I bought a Vizio because I was told it was Made in the USA? I found it was assembled here,parts made over seas.

    I am now looking for Smart TV. Any suggestions?

    The last American television manufacturer was Zenith which gave up actually trying to manufacture televisions in the USA in 1995.

    Trump said the U.S. "doesn’t make television sets anymore."

    He has a point. We know of no televisions on the market that bear the label "Made in USA," a claim that requires virtually all of the product to be manufactured domestically. An expert told us it’s "impossible" to build a TV in the United States without relying heavily on imported components. Evidence suggests about 99 percent of sets sold in the United States are fully made and assembled overseas, mainly in Asia.

    Trump’s statement ignores three companies that are, to varying degrees, assembling TVs in the United States. Two of them manufacture expensive niche products such as outdoor televisions. A spokesman for one of the companies told us it makes its specialty screens in the U.S. and imports most of its components.

    Donald Trump says U.S. doesn't make TVs anymore | PolitiFact Virginia

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    No, I bought a Vizio because I was told it was Made in the USA? I found it was assembled here,parts made over seas.

    I am now looking for Smart TV. Any suggestions?
    well, Vizio is a solid brand. got one myself. but, if you're looking for one that's made in the USA from all USA made components, you may have a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    I usually buy the best and if it's from the USA that's great, if it isn't, then I won't.
    The last Ralph Lauren shirts I bought for my Son were the cheapest shirts I ever bought..wrinkled like crazy. His products are not the same now.

    Liz Cliaburnes is just as bad. My favorite Designer. I would not buy anything she makes now. Her older dresses were wonderful.

    Department stores are complaining about loss of sales. They should look at their merchandise. Nothing but junky looking stuff we used to wear after WW 2.

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