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    Are you willing to Buy American?

    There was a time in this country that we looked for that "Made in the U.S.A." on the products that we purchased. That label was a sign of pride. It was a symbol of quality. Somewhere over the decades that has faded. This morning I heard a commercial for My Pillow.

    • The founder of the company, Michael J Lindell brags in the commercial that he does all of his own manufacturing in his home state of Minnesota.
    • Rob Cheng of PC Matic proudly says in his commercials that all their tech support, sales, and operations are in the USA.


    When I needed an additional vehicle recently, I bought a Hyundai Elantra Limited. One of the things that I liked about it was that it was assembled in the USA. What would it take to get a Made in America campaign to be successful in today's world? My Mac Pro was assembled in Texas. (We still count that as American made.) Do we even look for the American made tags? My sweater is made by Ralph Lauren - Polo and is from Sri Lanka. My watch made by Apple is made in China. The phone on my desk is a Toshiba, made in Malaysia. The Pilot pen that I used to sign things this morning? Japan. The Voss water that I drink too much of? Norway.

    What if I changed to buying American made sweaters, pens, phones, and water? What if many people changed to purchasing American made products? Could we make a difference? Carrier Air Conditioner is just one example of a company that staying in this country saves a thousand jobs. What if Apple brought assembly back to the USA? Think of how many workers are employed by Foxconn in China where our iPhones, iPads, Kindles, Nintendo DS, Playstations, Xboxes, Nokias, and BlackBerries are made. Imagine if that was done here in this country.

    American-made footwear mandate part of Defense authorization bill

    WASHINGTON, D.C. — The final version of the National Defense Authorization Act includes a provision to require the Department of Defense to provide military recruits with American-made shoes.

    Maine U.S. Sens. Susan Collins and Angus King and Maine Rep. Bruce Poliquin championed the change and announced its presence in the authorization act on Wednesday.

    The provision will go before the U.S. House of Representatives and Senate in the next few days. The Maine legislators say the provision will be implemented over the next two years.

    Collins and Poliquin are Republicans and King is an independent. They trumpeted the rule change as a win for American jobs and U.S. manufacturing.

    The legislators say the change essentially subjects footwear to the Berry Amendment, which requires the defense department to give preference to American products.

    https://www.stripes.com/news/us/amer...-bill-1.441906

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    It's a tough one. I often look for made in the USA stuff, but sometimes it just doesn't exist.

    Also, workers at Foxconn make about $17 dollars a day, whereas workers at a similar facility in the US would expect to make close to that in an hour. Since labor cost is the largest expenditure in just about any company, that's got to translate to higher costs for goods. How do you convince someone to buy something that costs at least double what an equivalent product costs? It's a tough sell.
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    I'd like to buy American more often. But it winds up being either too difficult, too expensive, or poor quality.

    I don't think ANY smartphones are made in the United States.
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    I own an American Made Santa Fe and a Diesel truck built by the Italian Company Dodge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    There was a time in this country that we looked for that "Made in the U.S.A." on the products that we purchased. That label was a sign of pride. It was a symbol of quality. Somewhere over the decades that has faded. This morning I heard a commercial for My Pillow.

    • The founder of the company, Michael J Lindell brags in the commercial that he does all of his own manufacturing in his home state of Minnesota.
    • Rob Cheng of PC Matic proudly says in his commercials that all their tech support, sales, and operations are in the USA.


    When I needed an additional vehicle recently, I bought a Hyundai Elantra Limited. One of the things that I liked about it was that it was assembled in the USA. What would it take to get a Made in America campaign to be successful in today's world? My Mac Pro was assembled in Texas. (We still count that as American made.) Do we even look for the American made tags? My sweater is made by Ralph Lauren - Polo and is from Sri Lanka. My watch made by Apple is made in China. The phone on my desk is a Toshiba, made in Malaysia. The Pilot pen that I used to sign things this morning? Japan. The Voss water that I drink too much of? Norway.

    What if I changed to buying American made sweaters, pens, phones, and water? What if many people changed to purchasing American made products? Could we make a difference? Carrier Air Conditioner is just one example of a company that staying in this country saves a thousand jobs. What if Apple brought assembly back to the USA? Think of how many workers are employed by Foxconn in China where our iPhones, iPads, Kindles, Nintendo DS, Playstations, Xboxes, Nokias, and BlackBerries are made. Imagine if that was done here in this country.
    I look for the Made In America,especially in appliances. My old AO Smith water heater that lasted from 1983 until last year was made right here in Ohio. My plumber quit using them after they went over seas because the insides did not last. I now have another brand, made here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StanStill View Post
    It's a tough one. I often look for made in the USA stuff, but sometimes it just doesn't exist.

    Also, workers at Foxconn make about $17 dollars a day, whereas workers at a similar facility in the US would expect to make close to that in an hour. Since labor cost is the largest expenditure in just about any company, that's got to translate to higher costs for goods. How do you convince someone to buy something that costs at least double what an equivalent product costs? It's a tough sell.
    If it was assembled in the United States could automation play a part in reducing those costs? The Apple Mac Pro is built in the USA, most Lenovo (formerly IBM) computers are assembled in the USA. So there are people doing it and they are competitive price wise for comparable hardware.

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    I prefer to buy American in most things. Generally better value over the long run.
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    I'd like to buy American more often. But it winds up being either too difficult, too expensive, or poor quality.

    I don't think ANY smartphones are made in the United States.
    All three of those are the reasons that most of us do not even check for tags any longer. What if there was a concerted effort, maybe even led by the White House to look to American made products first? I had an orange for a snack this morning. When I went to Publix, I actually chose the California orange over the Mexican orange. The cost was 20˘ higher. Somehow I do not think it was labor on that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    If it was assembled in the United States could automation play a part in reducing those costs? The Apple Mac Pro is built in the USA, most Lenovo (formerly IBM) computers are assembled in the USA. So there are people doing it and they are competitive price wise for comparable hardware.
    dunno, there. is "assembled in the USA" the same as "made in the USA"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    All three of those are the reasons that most of us do not even check for tags any longer. What if there was a concerted effort, maybe even led by the White House to look to American made products first? I had an orange for a snack this morning. When I went to Publix, I actually chose the California orange over the Mexican orange. The cost was 20˘ higher. Somehow I do not think it was labor on that one.
    It was knowing they are NOT over sprayed with toxic chemicals. That means a higher price.

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