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    Quote Originally Posted by April15 View Post
    A sad case of unintelligence. I can not help the person who refuses to learn. Enjoy your false news.
    That's why trump loves the uneducated

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    So, my taxes are not used to pay welfare checks? Food Stamps...

    You lose.
    And war, and parks, and roads, and trains and schools , . But you can feel better because instead of helping people with food stamps we can give that money as tax cuts to the billionaires. People like you feel so much better not helping those who are the neediest. It is the patriotic people who care about all Americans not just the rich

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    Fascism is a jampot of joviality because of its multiple definitions. To highlight its right wing nature, however, there are several elements we can refer to. I’d first refer to Keserich’s definition of fascism as “the reactionary and terroristic dictatorship of finance capital”. I'd then describe how fascism is incompatible with socialist political economy. Zanden (1960, American Journal of Economics and Sociology, Vol 19, pp 399-411) is a good source. First, the movement is characterised by anti-intellectualism (“obedience, discipline, faith and a religious belief in the cardinal tenets of the Fascist creed are put forth as the supreme values of a perfect Fascist. Individual thinking along independent lines is discouraged. What is wanted is not brains, daring ideas, or speculative faculties, but character pressed in the mold of Fascism”). That is closer to a worship of alienation. Second, we have the belief in the distribution of innate ability (i.e. the Theory of the Elites where those with a natural talent for ruling rule over the masses). A socialist, on the other hand, appreciates the destructiveness of class. Third, we have a reaction against democracy: “the mass of men is created to be governed and not to govern; is created to be led and not to lead, and is created, finally, to be slaves and not masters: slaves of their animal instincts, their physiological needs, their emotions, and their passions”. That aint participatory socialism! Fourth, we have “fascism is in its broadest meaning a revolt against the modern age, against democratisation, secularisation and internationalism”. That is conservatism! Fifth, we have corporatism where fascism is defined as “a system of political and economic decision-making based on the representation of organised interest groups in government” (Sarti). Ultimately fascism and economics, unlike socialism, do not go well together. The economics of fascism is actually “economics by mistake, not design”. But isn’t that the case with most right wing schools?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Æthelfrith View Post
    Fascism is a jampot of joviality because of its multiple definitions. To highlight its right wing nature, however, there are several elements we can refer to. I’d first refer to Keserich’s definition of fascism as “the reactionary and terroristic dictatorship of finance capital”. I'd then describe how fascism is incompatible with socialist political economy. Zanden (1960, American Journal of Economics and Sociology, Vol 19, pp 399-411) is a good source. First, the movement is characterised by anti-intellectualism (“obedience, discipline, faith and a religious belief in the cardinal tenets of the Fascist creed are put forth as the supreme values of a perfect Fascist. Individual thinking along independent lines is discouraged. What is wanted is not brains, daring ideas, or speculative faculties, but character pressed in the mold of Fascism”). That is closer to a worship of alienation. Second, we have the belief in the distribution of innate ability (i.e. the Theory of the Elites where those with a natural talent for ruling rule over the masses). A socialist, on the other hand, appreciates the destructiveness of class. Third, we have a reaction against democracy: “the mass of men is created to be governed and not to govern; is created to be led and not to lead, and is created, finally, to be slaves and not masters: slaves of their animal instincts, their physiological needs, their emotions, and their passions”. That aint participatory socialism! Fourth, we have “fascism is in its broadest meaning a revolt against the modern age, against democratisation, secularisation and internationalism”. That is conservatism! Fifth, we have corporatism where fascism is defined as “a system of political and economic decision-making based on the representation of organised interest groups in government” (Sarti). Ultimately fascism and economics, unlike socialism, do not go well together. The economics of fascism is actually “economics by mistake, not design”. But isn’t that the case with most right wing schools?
    Paragraphs, please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    Paragraphs, please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by libertariat720 View Post
    Fascism and socialism are two sides of the same coin. Both enforce a centrally planned economy, which leads to dictatorship and overall fuckery.
    Is the coin "political philosophies" and your point is that they are on opposite sides? In that case, glad to hear you've come around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    So, my taxes are not used to pay welfare checks? Food Stamps...

    You lose.
    Hell, even our military gets part of your pie.

    Looks like everyone is a socialist - you lose.

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