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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles View Post
    "Why can't you be more lenient and open minded? More liberal towards different peoples and different ideas? More inclusive and multicultural? I guess what I'm asking is why don't you be more like Adolf Hitler and the Nazis?"

    Hmmm... Doesn't seem right to me.
    You're idea of a socialist liberal is skewed drastically.

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    [QUOTE=April15;4969205]As Adolf is a relative of mine I have it on good family history handed down to me that he had a very religious belief that it was Gods choice for him to lead the Nation to greatness as Hindenberg was failing. Just a small sample of his religion;

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    You will find this in Mein Kampf: "Therefore, I am convinced that I am acting as the agent of our Creator. By fighting off the Jews, I am doing the Lord's Work." Hitler said it again at a Nazi Christmas celebration in 1926: "Christ was the greatest early fighter in the battle against the world enemy, the Jews ... The work that Christ started but could not finish, I -- Adolf Hitler -- will conclude." In a Reichstag speech in 1938, Hitler again echoed the religious origins of his crusade. "I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews, I am fighting for the Lord's work."


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    “The folkish-minded man, in particular, has the sacred duty, each in his own denomination, of making people stop just talking superficially of God's will, and actually fulfill God's will, and not let God's word be desecrated. For God's will gave men their form, their essence and their abilities. Anyone who destroys His work is declaring war on the Lord's creation, the divine will.”



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    “For this, to be sure, from the child's primer down to the last newspaper, every theater and every movie house, every advertising pillar and every billboard, must be pressed into the service of this one great mission, until the timorous prayer of our present parlor patriots: ‘Lord, make us free!’ is transformed in the brain of the smallest boy into the burning plea: ‘Almighty God, bless our arms when the time comes; be just as thou hast always been; judge now whether we be deserving of freedom; Lord, bless our battle!’”


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    “And now Staatspräsident Bolz says that Christianity and the Catholic faith are threatened by us. And to that charge I can answer: In the first place it is Christians and not international atheists who now stand at the head of Germany. I do not merely talk of Christianity, no, I also profess that I will never ally myself with the parties which destroy Christianity. If many wish today to take threatened Christianity under their protection, where, I would ask, was Christianity for them in these fourteen years when they went arm in arm with atheism? No, never and at no time was greater internal damage done to Christianity than in these fourteen years when a party, theoretically Christian, sat with those who denied God in one and the same Government.”


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    “We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out.”


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    “We have experienced a miracle, something unique, something the like of which there has hardly been in the history of the world. God first allowed our people to be victorious for four and a half years, then He abased us, laid upon us a period of shamelessness, but now after a struggle of fourteen years he has permitted us to bring that period to a close. It is a miracle which has been wrought upon the German people. […] It shows us that the Almighty has not deserted our people, that He received it into favour at the moment when it rediscovered itself. And that our people shall never again lose itself, that must be our vow so long as we shall live and so long as the Lord gives us the strength to carry on the fight.”


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    “Even today I am not ashamed to say that, overpowered by stormy enthusiasm, I fell down on my knees and thanked Heaven from an overflowing heart for granting me the good fortune of being permitted to live at this time. A fight for freedom had begun mightier than the earth had ever seen; for once Destiny had begun its course, the conviction dawned on even the broad masses that this time not the fate of Serbia or Austria was involved, but whether the German nation was to be or not to be.” [quote]

    “Thank the Lord, Germanic democracy means just this: that any old climber or moral slacker cannot rise by devious paths to govern his national comrades, but that, by the very greatness of the responsibility to be assumed, incompetents and weaklings are frightened of.”

    Now many people have tried to make him out as a liberal but his true views as stated in Mein Kampf were that only by closely guarding our future by keeping a tight reign on government and the citizenry could germany succeed.

    Doesn't sound liberal to me, more like conservatives or Fascist.
    Hitler was a poser who wanted power. He pretended and posed to gain political advantages. Quoting him to prove what he actually believed doesn't really work. The Nazis tried to undermine the church and had plans to replace it after the war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    Fascism is has tenants of both the left and the right. It is both, thus neither.

    Neither are Fascist "centrist" they are extreme in their positions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by libertariat720 View Post
    You're idea of a socialist liberal is skewed drastically.
    I don't have any 'idea' of the sort. Words have meaning, education is important, intelligence is earned.

    It's not my job to log on to the Internet and convince people that they should know things about the world. If you don't understand why fascism is right wing extremism and communism is left wing extremism then that's your opportunity to educate yourself.

    You learn things by reading and listening, not by spouting off nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by libertariat720 View Post
    You'er(sic) idea of a socialist liberal is skewed drastically.
    Look at these pictures of American Nazis and tell me with a straight face that they are liberal socialists in the vein of Sweden, Norway, Denmark and The Netherlands.

    American Neo Nazis Stock Photos and Pictures | Getty Images

    Even a high school drop out would not be so ignorant as to call Nazis liberals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steezer View Post
    Care to comment on the costs of corporate welfare and how that affects the middle class?
    Welfare in 2008 was 500 billion today 1,029 billion OVER DOUBLE

    But the Obama administration says the economy is better, if the Economy is better than 2008 why has welfare spending over double?

    if people are back to work welfare spending would DECLINE.. (you see the math does not match the Obama Propaganda).

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    Look at these pictures of American Nazis and tell me with a straight face that they are liberal socialists in the vein of Sweden, Norway, Denmark and The Netherlands.

    American Neo Nazis Stock Photos and Pictures | Getty Images

    Even a high school drop out would not be so ignorant as to call Nazis liberals.
    you show you are lacking greatly in knowledge, NAZIs are NATIONAL SOCIALISTs Sweden Norway and Denmark are Democratic socialist nations.

    Did you drop out of High School,

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    And North Korea is "The Democratic People's Republic", China is the "Republic of China", USSR was the "Union of Soviet Socialist Republics".

    Clearly "Republic" must mean Communist. I mean they say it right there in their names they call themselves, so it must be exactly what they are. Because they used the word.

    Wait, isn't the US a Republic? I'm here with a bunch of Socialist communists?


    Et voila.

    Dictators tend to lie. And they're not always very honest in their naming conventions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    Welfare in 2008 was 500 billion today 1,029 billion OVER DOUBLE

    But the Obama administration says the economy is better, if the Economy is better than 2008 why has welfare spending over double?

    if people are back to work welfare spending would DECLINE.. (you see the math does not match the Obama Propaganda).
    It has not.

    US Government Welfare Spending History with Charts - a www.usgovernmentspending.com briefing
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoVsMatrix View Post
    GDP is 18000 billion dollar




    your source

    Medicaid spending is 5% of GDP



    Housing subsides (public housing) is 1% of GDP





    1.5% of GDP is relief (direct welfare payments better known as the check )


    7.5% of gdp is spent on welfare

    0.075 * 18000 billion = 1,350 billion


    I did not count Unemployment as welfare which your link did (I don't think it is it is insurance paid for by the employers.
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