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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    So is Hillary, much to our retreat.

    It is time to move on,young blood. That is what I want to see.
    Yep that election is over and now we need to focus on survival as a society for 4 years. Both Hillary and Bernie gave it a shot and it is done. I don't care about age so much as candidates who are focused on the social issues of our time. Something about spending to relieve suffering of the people being more valuable than spending for war toys wins me every time.
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    I have to think that might have ruffled a few feathers, calling some of the Bernie supporters "republicans." The ones that walked out at the DNC convention were certainly not republicans. It probably angered quite a few of them since they are polar opposites.
    Ya think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    I am just checking Pete out, but from what I have seen so far,he sounds good to me. A truly fresh face.

    Now,how about you working on the stunted old men in your party? The women in the party seem to be deserting them and Trump.
    Am an independent have no party leaders. I watch both and decide which I like better at any given time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    I have to think that might have ruffled a few feathers, calling some of the Bernie supporters "republicans." The ones that walked out at the DNC convention were certainly not republicans. It probably angered quite a few of them since they are polar opposites.
    I am referring to posters here,that we all knew were Republicans. I am quite sure there were many more off this board,who then voted for Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    It may be ," Your Party," but it is not Bernie's party. He used Democrats to run, he helped us lose.

    I may have held up for Bernie until he lied about remaining a Democrat, but he lied. Of course I am sure that was so he could be re-Elected in Vermont.

    From the beginning I was not impressed with his radical views. I was not too thrilled with Hillary,either . But one thing is certain I preferred her to the lunatic in the WhiteHouse and Bernie and his no show followers helped us lose.

    I am middle of the road and have no use for the extremes on either side.
    Here's another opinion:

    In 2012, the number of 18-to-29-year-old voters dropped by 1.8 million from the previous presidential election year. “It seems likely that the observed young-adult voting surge of 2004–2008 was temporary,” a U.S. Census study concluded, “and not representative of a permanent shift towards greater young-adult engagement in presidential elections.”

    In 2016, this is likely to affect Clinton’s performance in several college-heavy states that have had relatively high turnout—and high Democratic voting rates—among those age groups. That includes swing states such as Iowa, North Carolina, New Hampshire and Virginia. Just look at what happened in the past cycle. In Iowa, for example, 18-to-29-year-olds dropped from 17 percent of the 2008 vote to 15 percent in 2012—and were less likely to vote for Obama. The result was a net loss of close to 30,000 votes, in a contest Romney lost by less than 90,000 votes.

    And that was with Obama, who did far better than Clinton with young voters.

    During primary season, Sanders took a stunning 84 percent of the under-30 vote in the Iowa caucuses. Many of these young Sanders voters may come around to support Clinton over Trump in the general—just as Clinton’s bitter supporters eventually came to support Obama in 2008. The question is, though: How many?

    Maybe not enough. As Jennifer Duffy of the Cook Political Report notes, there is a big difference between 2008 and 2016: Then, Clinton’s so-called PUMA die-hards were mostly middle-age suburban women, with long-standing ties to the Democratic Party. In other words: likely voters. Most young Sanders voters, on the other hand, are not yet regular voters, and certainly not the kind of committed Democrats Clinton can count on; her campaign will need a significant get-out-the-vote effort to persuade them to show up in November. That will be more difficult the more she takes the conservative path, pivoting to the center for the general election, and focusing on messages geared toward her core—older—voters.

    How Hillary Clinton Loses to Donald Trump - POLITICO Magazine
    Young voters never were Hillary's to begin with, so how could Bernie take away what she never had?
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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    Know what? Your party is also my party, and Bernie "speaks" for me.
    You need to go sit in a corner and be quiet while the people who shrunk your party decide what to do next. (I keed, I keed, you know I keed, but some of your fellow Democrats aren't kidding.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Am an independent have no party leaders. I watch both and decide which I like better at any given time.
    You're not welcome.

    25% of the country call themselves Democrats, and that's still too many. Democrats still need to weed out their troublemakers, donchaknow. New applications are not welcome.

    2017 Jan 4-8
    Republicans 28%
    Independents 44%
    Democrats 25%

    Party Affiliation | Gallup Historical Trends
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    And I gave Bernie credit for trying. My problem has always been the Republicans,who,all of a sudden became huge Berniebots. Calling Hillary all kinds of names,lying about her,pretending to be for Bernie. I have seen that too oten at the Polls,and in real life,not to know it when I see it.

    Now,those same people are trying to tell us how to heal the Democratic Party. No,thank you!
    Hillary supporters were no slouches when it came to bashing Bernie. So much so, that I put several on ignore during the primary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    So is Hillary, much to our regret.

    It is time to move on,young blood. That is what I want to see.
    Young blood liked Bernie. If you'd like to see more of that in the Democratic party, then taking Bernie seriously, and supporting the reformation of the party is the way to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    Here's another opinion:



    Young voters never were Hillary's to begin with, so how could Bernie take away what she never had?
    College kids here were huge Sanders supporters and many didn't vote at all in November. Others wrote in Bernie as he got over 4000 write ins here. Clinton still managed to win the state but it was mostly older, white voters. Millenials also aren't affiliated with a party and are the largest group of independents. They don't just vote based on a letter after a name.

    Poll: Half of millennials independent - POLITICO
    Sanders NH write-in winner in presidential election with 4,493 votes
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