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    Quote Originally Posted by HadEnough2 View Post
    Bush or Obama, which was worse?

    Not even close. If Obama could have run a third term he would have been elected again. Bush was a disaster. He had a chance to bring the country together after 911 and then attacked the wrong country based on bad intelligence. Iraq was a debacle which created Al Qaeda and then ISIS. Add the financial meltdown and Bush goes down as the worst President ever.

    Obama cleaned up the mess and brought our country back from the worst recession since the Great Depression, and did it in the face of obstruction from racists on the right.
    This is just a continuation of the "They're all the same" meme, trying to soften GOP disasters.

    And... it has worked to a degree, it doesn't take but a few percentage points these days to tip an election, every little bit counts, everything that can be done will be done.

    You could see it before the election: "Donald Trump is a shitgibbon it is true, but I just can't bring myself to vote for Hillary, what with her e-mails..."



    They don't have to convince everyone, just a few percent here, and a few percent there.... it all adds up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HadEnough2 View Post
    It's mind boggling. It's been a weekly debacle. You don't know what's coming out of Biff the Bafoon's mouth next. Yet, Trumpsters stay loyal.
    Some of these Trump supporters have painted themselves into a corner and now they're stuck. What they don't realize is that the older that crow gets the tougher it is to digest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly5 View Post
    Some of these Trump supporters have painted themselves into a corner and now they're stuck. What they don't realize is that the older that crow gets the tougher it is to digest.
    I realize you are speaking generally, but Could you elaborate, please?
    Just on the corner they painted themselves in, thanks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    More civilians were killed during Obama's term than Bush's and more US Troops died under Obama's leadership. who FUed+
    You must be thick not to realise that Obama's administration operated in these theatres far longer than Bush. What a fucking moronic comment. Obama had to clean up the mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by libertariat720 View Post
    Funding terrorist groups is kinda fucked up. Tulsi Gabbard thinks so.

    Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard blasts Obama for funding ISIS, introduces ?Stop Arming Terrorists Act?

    But Obama did NOT fund Isis, that is a myth. Do people still swallow that CT? Some groups that were funded to some extent in the war against Assad defected to ISIS after the fact. Even so, how does that eclipse the fuckup Bush created re: the OP? Come on, the invasion of Iraq was stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blues63 View Post
    But Obama did NOT fund Isis, that is a myth. Do people still swallow that CT? Some groups that were funded to some extent in the war against Assad defected to ISIS after the fact. Even so, how does that eclipse the fuckup Bush created re: the OP? Come on, the invasion of Iraq was stupid.
    http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-cont...-version11.pdf

    You haven't read this document yet? Or are you going to attack the source or me like I insult you because I show you wrong again... And then tell me that I'm insulting you with this post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-cont...-version11.pdf

    You haven't read this document yet?
    Yes, I've read it. And? Please specify where it states that funding was directed to AQI? This is a summary of the situation up to the date of insurgency. What do you suspect it is saying? There is so much of this document that is redacted can you explain your point by presenting this document and specify the parts that support your belief. What is the nature of the 'support' recommended in the document?


    Or are you going to attack the source or me like I insult you because I show you wrong again... And then tell me that I'm insulting you with this post?
    No, that's your MO, and you've never demonstrated where I've been wrong. You merely claim that, but you NEVER produce evidence so I don't take such rants all that seriously. By the way, thanks for producing a source, this has to be a first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blues63 View Post
    Yes, I've read it. And? Please specify where it states that funding was directed to AQI? This is a summary of the situation up to the date of insurgency. What do you suspect it is saying? There is so much of this document that is redacted can you explain your point by presenting this document and specify the parts that support your belief. What is the nature of the 'support' recommended in the document?




    No, that's your MO, and you've never demonstrated where I've been wrong. You merely claim that, but you NEVER produce evidence so I don't take such rants all that seriously. By the way, thanks for producing a source, his has to be a first.
    Oh good, you read it and now you need me to source which page and paragraphs too?

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    Not sure why the OP did not also ask people why they chose who they chose. Who can't simply pick any and all who agree with their politics without having to provide any reasoning for doing so? It's done pretty much daily here by some, while some others offer reasons and back up for their choices.

    Lining up along political lines and forgetting, not thinking about or ignoring any reasons for doing anything we do, seems more robotic and brainless than human and intelligent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    Oh good, you read it and now you need me to source which page and paragraphs too?
    I didn't think you'd be helpful. Where the does this document support your claim? I can't see it. Why can't you ever answer a question? There's nothing to support your claim on pages 1,2,3,4,5,6 or 7, and it's a seven page document.

    Is this going to be like Rockefeller's essay on global economics that you were sure was a plan for Zionist domination?

    If you remember correctly, the CIA recommended that the administration support the FSA (Free Syrian Army). There was nothing wrong with that, but later, some groups defected to ISIS (e.g. the Salafis). THIS was what people were complaining about, and rightly so, but it doesn't mean Obama's administration 'supported' Al-Qaeda. That is a distortion of the reality.

    Are you sure you posted the correct document because this is merely an assessment of the situation at the time of the report.
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