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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    This Democratic Party if NOT "left liberal". It's slightly to the RIGHT of Reagan.
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    The traditional, 20th century view of the Democratic Party is that they were the party of the working man and the poor. They favored civil rights, unions, fair play in the financial sector, environmental protection and science/separation of church and state.

    Is that view still valid? It seems to me that the Democrats lost their way during the Reagan era, and decided they had to "court the moderates and independents" or else they'd never be in power again. Clinton's campaign in 1992 was even more anti-minority and anti-poor than anything any Republican POTUS candidate had run before. "End Welfare", minimum sentencing laws, repeal regulations on Wall Street, etc.

    None of these are even remotely intended to favor the working man or the poor. They are obviously harmful ideas and once enacted, they were extremely harmful policies from the POV of the traditional Democratic party voter.

    So, after the Democrats rejected Bernie Sanders as their candidate for "being too extreme" and "promoting socialism", where is the party's compass headed now?

    This moment in time is a perfect opportunity to educate the American voter on why universal care is best for most of us. Instead, Democrats in Congress and elsewhere are frantically trying to protect the POS corporate welfare program known as Obamacare.

    They rejected Bernie's choice for DNC Chair.

    They aren't behind any progressive ideas anymore now than they have been for the last 50 years, IMO.

    I see very little difference between the GOP's policies and those of the Democratic Party, ideologically. Both put the interests of the 0.01% above all else.

    So, my question is: has the Democratic Party outlived its useful life? Should we forget about trying to rehab them and work on building the Progressive party instead?

    Your thoughts?


    @MaryAnne
    Well, there is a lot of truth in what you say here but your remedy is not the answer. Like it or not, we have two parties and they are entrenched. No third way can survive in this system and any vote for a third party is a wasted vote. The only people who care about those votes are the ones that think they lost voters that might have made a slight difference in this race or that state. So, what is the new path for the left look like after this debacle?

    First of all, the debacle was not about the left but about our institutions. The EC is inherently undemocratic and favors small numbers of voters in key states. The rest of us, left or right, do not matter one bit. Millions voted for Hillary yet they were the wrong millions according to our archaic system. What you are really asking is how does the left get apathetic voters to vote for them. People who do not vote and seem to live in a daze. That is the key. What will motivate those tens of millions to vote? Well I think Trump and this Congress is about to motivate them better than any Democratic Platform ever could. I expect a much higher degree of turnout as long as Trump is in power. The left still needs to rethink some of their messaging. It needs to be driven by economic progress and equality. That will drive the minority voters to the polls without alienating the white rural voter. Second, we need to keep driving the concept of freedom, fairness, justice and equality before the law and before the nation. Third, stay strong on entitlements and progressive taxation. Fourth, demand environmental protection but move it towards creating opportunities for jobs, enjoyment of our natural resources and the future. Ignore the hot button issues of coal and fossil fuels, stress alternative energy and energy efficiency. Lastly, we are part of the world and should lead it morally. We once did, we need to regain that status again. But even if we do nothing, Trump will drive people to the left because he will scare the shit out of everyone before this is over.

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    NO AGENDA.


    just spoliers
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