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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    You have to ask the question "Is that sustainable indefinitely?"

    I think history shows that any great power runs into the problem of affordability. What we should shoot for is a world of regional powers that are not existentially hostile to each other.
    No, I would say it is not "sustainable indefinitely".

    I have thought that for a long time, but our federal gubmint seems unlikely to change course.

    Common sense has nothing to do with our fiscal policy.

    As to your second point, the world does not seem inclined to get along better with itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    No, I would say it is not "sustainable indefinitely".

    I have thought that for a long time, but our federal gubmint seems unlikely to change course.

    Common sense has nothing to do with our fiscal policy.

    As to your second point, the world does not seem inclined to get along better with itself.
    I don't know. We're actually doing a lot better since WWII. There is a measurable drop in the amount of political violence around the globe over the decades. Interstate conflicts are at an all time low: CSP Conflict Trends, Figure 3

    What's up around the world are DOMESTIC conflicts within countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    No, I would say it is not "sustainable indefinitely".

    I have thought that for a long time, but our federal gubmint seems unlikely to change course.

    Common sense has nothing to do with our fiscal policy.

    As to your second point, the world does not seem inclined to get along better with itself.
    I find it hard to believe that most of our country would ever support giving up our sovereignty to a regional power.
    That's loopy lefty talk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metheron View Post
    I find it hard to believe that most of our country would ever support giving up our sovereignty to a regional power.
    That's loopy lefty talk.
    No, it's a view informed by history. Many nations have ruined themselves, going broke trying to maintain great power throughout their known world. It's not good policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    No, it's a view informed by history. Many nations have ruined themselves, going broke trying to maintain great power throughout their known world. It's not good policy.
    Name an existing power that uses a regional power instead of defending their own?
    I mean many use the power of the US, so it would benefit us if THEY started using their own regions for their defense. But their is no basis for the US to give up its sovereignty to a regional authority. That's just silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metheron View Post
    Name an existing power that uses a regional power instead of defending their own?
    I mean many use the power of the US, so it would benefit us if THEY started using their own regions for their defense. But their is no basis for the US to give up its sovereignty to a regional authority. That's just silly.
    Not a "regional authority." Another country. Another country that's bound to express power in their own part of the world. If we don't manage the kind of transition I'm talking about it will happen anyway, but only after some sort of armed conflict and a lot of lost economic productivity worldwide.

    China is a regional power right now. So is Russia (at least in central Asia). Iran and Saudi Arabia are in a struggle over regional power in the ME, with israel thrown in. Africa is such chaos that even we aren't that interested in the place except where we'd like to extract things--there we compete with the Chinese.

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    Quote Originally Posted by April15 View Post
    Don't feel bad as even mechanics have a hard time with it. The advent of platinum tipped spark plugs and EFI and PCM made the CVCC useless.
    Oh ok, I bow to your superior knowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metheron View Post
    Name an existing power that uses a regional power instead of defending their own?
    I mean many use the power of the US, so it would benefit us if THEY started using their own regions for their defense. But their is no basis for the US to give up its sovereignty to a regional authority. That's just silly.
    When coroperations are global, as they are, and use their wealth to influence governments, then our sovereignty is compromised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    When coroperations are global, as they are, and use their wealth to influence governments, then our sovereignty is compromised.
    So instead of reeling in those corporations is it being argued to give up our sovereignty instead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    "THERE IS NO MORE". Absolutely correct.

    There was no more 5 years ago.

    And, what did we do? We kept borrowing and spending

    And what did we do? We kept borrowing and spending.

    What are we going to do now in 2017? Keep borrowing and spending.

    The inmates are running the asylum and have been for quite some time now, and I do not see that changing anytime soon.

    There was no more 10 years ago.
    We were in pretty good shape in 2000, then boy George and his henchmen cut taxes and put two wars on the never, never plan.

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