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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    There's not complete agreement among all progressives, and we don't all slavishly follow Bernie's edicts as to policies and priorities. But in the main, this is what people I know who are progressives want:

    * Criminal justice reform. This is a HUGE task that requires demilitarizing the police and subjecting them to reasonable civilian controls, dismantling the prison industrial complex, decriminalizing drugs and poverty, etc. The goal should be to reduce the prisoner population to very few other than those who have committed serious crimes against persons, and that virtually all such people reach prison after being found guilty at trial.

    * Universal health care. Basically, Medicare for everyone.

    * Free college & trade school tuition at public schools.

    * Aggressive pursuit of the Paris Accord goals as regards climate as well as other environmental protections.

    * Massive investment in infrastructure.

    * Immigration reform that allows the undocumented people here to become citizens rapidly and cheaply, unless they have committed violent crimes.

    There's more, but that's a fairly common agreed-upon set of goals. If any Democrat can't commit to these goals, I will work to defeat him. If any Republican CAN commit to these goals, I will work to elect him. I plan to protest and contribute and agitate to pressure my local, state and federal politicians to fall in line and if they don't, to defeat them. Of BOTH parties.

    It's just that fucking simple. Put the interests of 99% Americans first, if you want to be an American politician.

    And equal rights for all citizens.
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    Wow, this pragmatist character has issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoom View Post
    Wow, this pragmatist character has issues.
    He does not seem all that pragmatic to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    If the Democrats had put up a person like my first choice, Jim Webb, I would have voted for him.
    Dunno him. Lots of people like him, I hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    He does not seem all that pragmatic to me.
    @pragmatic is always a gentleman. Not so much @Pragmatist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    So you think the cops should shoot first....at protesters?
    No where have I said that. But if they feel the need to show up in body armor, I support them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    No where have I said that. But if they feel the need to show up in body armor, I support them.
    Me too.

    I don't want anyone to get hurt at a protest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoom View Post
    Many scholars and lawyers say that, until it is tried in court and determined it is unknown. I'm betting in the end, Trump and the EO's will win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AttusBlack View Post
    Many scholars and lawyers say that, until it is tried in court and determined it is unknown. I'm betting in the end, Trump and the EO's will win.
    Well, he has abandoned the first one. I don't think the second one has a prayer.

    There's no constitutional way to discriminate against people based on their religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Well, he has abandoned the first one. I don't think the second one has a prayer.

    There's no constitutional way to discriminate against people based on their religion.
    Except it's not... There's no mention of religion, it's a list of countries that Obama chose.

    It would also ban Christians and atheists equally.

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