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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    I am not the Answer Lady, but I can go into detail on most of the list to a degree. "Decriminalizing" the police has to do with altering the organizations so that they are first responders, not an invading army. Change the uniform and the vehicles. Instill the power of politeness. Much more importantly, stop preferring vets in the hiring process, and instead, prefer people who are residents of the communities that will be policed. Excuse minor, nonviolent criminal records. Hire more women. Etc. Destroy the "paramilitary" culture that corrupts police departments around the country.
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    We should:

    --Not hire Vets as Police Officers.
    --Change their Uniform and Vehicle (????????What? Paint them pink and put images of butterflies on them???)
    --Hire more women.
    --And, don't bother with "petty" crime. (SO. If steal a case of beer from a convenient store, the cops should just let me go with a warning?)

    Personally, I think, that such a police force may NOT be up to the task of protecting soceity.

    But, no matter. As long as I am afforded to tools to defend myself, no biggie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rorschach View Post
    So.

    We should:

    --Not hire Vets as Police Officers.
    --Change their Uniform and Vehicle (????????What? Paint them pink and put images of butterflies on them???)
    --Hire more women.
    --And, don't bother with "petty" crime. (SO. If steal a case of beer from a convenient store, the cops should just let me go with a warning?)

    Personally, I think, that such a police force may NOT be up to the task of protecting soceity.

    But, no matter. As long as I am afforded to tools to defend myself, no biggie.
    Vets should not be preferred. If they are mentally sound, of course they should be eligible to be hired.

    There are other colors than pink. Yellow is popular in Europe. The idea is to outfit them to look more like EMTs and less like Navy SEALs.

    Yes, hire more women. "Petty" crime should be ticketed, not arrested, and people with "petty" criminal backgrounds should be eligible to join the police so as to best attain the goal of hiring people from the community to be served.

    Community policing. Cops walking a beat. Etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    And that 9% is extracted from the rich, which results in protecting the middle class.

    Win, win, win, win, win.
    OR, as is more likely to happen... business looks at that tax liability and compares that to their options.

    Then, if they see another place that would give them preferential tax treatment, they shut down the doors for the better deal and now you collect not just 0 instead of that +9% they would pay, NOW, you collect 0, which is a -26% from what you WERE getting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    OR, as is more likely to happen... business looks at that tax liability and compares that to their options.

    Then, if they see another place that would give them preferential tax treatment, they shut down the doors for the better deal and now you collect not just 0 instead of that +9% they would pay, NOW, you collect 0, which is a -26% from what you WERE getting.
    Is that what happened in Canada? Yes? No? Maybe? How about Germany? All you have is unsupported ideology, no real world examples of your assertion.
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    The entire EU is around 35%, are all their billionaires fleeing the continent? If not, maybe your doom and gloom dystopian prediction is full of shit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    Is that what happened in Canada? Yes? No? Maybe? How about Germany? All you have is unsupported ideology, no real world examples of your assertion.
    Right... China became the world's largest economy by fluke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    The entire EU is around 35%, are all their billionaires fleeing the continent? If not, maybe your doom and gloom dystopian prediction is full of shit?
    The gentleman you are addressing is Canadian, and as far as I know, not planning to emigrate to the US so as to flee his dread universal health care or "ginormous" tax bill.

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    China became the worlds largest economy by utterly convincing its people that they must sacrifice their own prosperity for the national interest, that the only way out of poverty was to work slavish hours in horrible conditions at the whim of corrupt, vile employers, and that nothing they contribute to government will ever come back to them, nor should it, and if they step out of line and complain a militarized police force will come and ruin them, if not beat them or kill them.

    That's the Chinese model on how to be a big powerful world class economy. Slave citizens.

    It does work, I can't argue it's effectiveness. I'm just surprised to see so many people who do eagerly want to be on the shitty end of it.
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    No talk about reparations for Afrcian-Americans?

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    What progressives want is to be admired.

    What conservatives want is to be respected.

    What the other 80% of us want is to be left alone by the first two.
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