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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Hollywood,

    Throwing rocks and a bomb is not elementary school playground violence, my friend....

    Then again, I am not from St. Louis....
    Quite the little snowflake, aren't you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    Quite the little snowflake, aren't you?
    This is sarcasm, right...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Nic,

    That was more than a century ago. Maybe you're just pissed that your buggy whip and oil lamp stocks are worthless and you need someone to blame?
    I was simply addressing your lame answer to Madelin's post:

    What Do Progressives Want?

    trespassed on property that wasn't yours, and sometimes violently protested a made up issue with professional protesters who were using you as their gullible dupes.....

    That was your comment wasn't it?

    You are the clever one Knoetze. No really, with the crowd you run in, you are definitely one of the sharper TOOLS.
    My point was simple. It's a frickin protest to stop an unnecessary pipeline from being buried on indian land. Where was the conservative outrage about the protesters in Oregon just last year? The Bundys get acquitted, but the natives are arrested? Is there a double standard goin on here?

    Anyway, I blame Columbus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nic View Post
    I was simply addressing your lame answer to Madelin's post:

    What Do Progressives Want?

    trespassed on property that wasn't yours, and sometimes violently protested a made up issue with professional protesters who were using you as their gullible dupes.....

    That was your comment wasn't it?

    You are the clever one Knoetze. No really, with the crowd you run in, you are definitely one of the sharper TOOLS.
    My point was simple. It's a frickin protest to stop an unnecessary pipeline from being buried on indian land. Where was the conservative outrage about the protesters in Oregon just last year? The Bundys get acquitted, but the natives are arrested? Is there a double standard goin on here?

    Anyway, I blame Columbus.
    Mr. Nic,

    ETP would not have spent millions to build an unnecessary pipeline after spending even more to gain property rights on private land to bury that pipeline, wot?

    I'm not sure what the rest of your irrelevant non sequitur has to with the issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    There's not complete agreement among all progressives, and we don't all slavishly follow Bernie's edicts as to policies and priorities. But in the main, this is what people I know who are progressives want:

    * Criminal justice reform. This is a HUGE task that requires demilitarizing the police and subjecting them to reasonable civilian controls, dismantling the prison industrial complex, decriminalizing drugs and poverty, etc. The goal should be to reduce the prisoner population to very few other than those who have committed serious crimes against persons, and that virtually all such people reach prison after being found guilty at trial.

    * Universal health care. Basically, Medicare for everyone.

    * Free college & trade school tuition at public schools.

    * Aggressive pursuit of the Paris Accord goals as regards climate as well as other environmental protections.

    * Massive investment in infrastructure.

    * Immigration reform that allows the undocumented people here to become citizens rapidly and cheaply, unless they have committed violent crimes.

    There's more, but that's a fairly common agreed-upon set of goals. If any Democrat can't commit to these goals, I will work to defeat him. If any Republican CAN commit to these goals, I will work to elect him. I plan to protest and contribute and agitate to pressure my local, state and federal politicians to fall in line and if they don't, to defeat them. Of BOTH parties.

    It's just that fucking simple. Put the interests of 99% Americans first, if you want to be an American politician.

    actually, I'm more interested in what the citizens, as a whole, want and if they are willing to pay for it.

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