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    California vs. Trump, Round 1

    ALEX BEAM

    APRIL 03, 2017

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    From Day One, the great state of California has been in open rebellion against Donald Trump’s America. Just four days after Trump delivered his inaugural address, Governor Jerry Brown declared the state of his state to be the exact opposite of the regime taking office in Washington.

    Brown derided the “bald assertion of ‘alternative facts’ — whatever those are,” and he vowed that California would stand by its laws that allow undocumented immigrants access to jobs, drivers licenses, and higher education.

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    Trump has signaled his intention to attack California’s stringent auto regulations, which are stricter than national guidelines. (Massachusetts and several other states enforce the California rules.)

    Detroit loves to whine about the California regs, but when push comes to shove, they love selling cars more; California accounts for more than 10 percent of all US car sales, with twice as many new cars sold as New York. George W. Bush challenged California’s emissions standards, and lost. If Trump wants to rack up some more judicial setbacks, he can do likewise.

    Which brings us to “Calexit.” There is a semi-serious movement under way to put a referendum question on the 2019 ballot that would allow California to secede from the United States. Some facts argue for it; California is the world’s sixth largest economy, and broadly diversified in high tech, manufacturing, agriculture and service industries.

    Unlike, say, Mississippi, California sends more tax dollars to Washington than it receives in federal spending.

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    “You don’t want to mess with California,” Governor Brown told NBC News last month in Washington, D.C., “because you’re going to mess with the economy, and that could blow up in your face in a gigantic recession and roll the Republicans right out of this town.”

    Correctly speaking might he be.

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    California couldn't survive without the rest of the nation.

    Hell, we will just damn up the grand canyon and there goes your water supply, drought hits, you go bankrupt, here comes the Chinese invasion but guess what, you have nobody to defend you.

    Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    California couldn't survive without the rest of the nation.

    Hell, we will just damn up the grand canyon and there goes your water supply, drought hits, you go bankrupt, here comes the Chinese invasion but guess what, you have nobody to defend you.

    Good luck.
    LOL - CA doesn't get any water from the grand canyon.

    Calexit is a stupid idea.

    But much like Texas did under Obama, CA can bury MM in lawsuits.

    Keep up the good work Gov. Brown!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    California couldn't survive without the rest of the nation.

    Hell, we will just damn up the grand canyon and there goes your water supply, drought hits, you go bankrupt, here comes the Chinese invasion but guess what, you have nobody to defend you.

    Good luck.
    lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    California couldn't survive without the rest of the nation.

    Hell, we will just damn up the grand canyon and there goes your water supply, drought hits, you go bankrupt, here comes the Chinese invasion but guess what, you have nobody to defend you.

    Good luck.
    Mess with our water, and we'll take Texas, trade it to the Mexicans for Baja California, annex Arizona and create the Calfornia Socialist Republic!
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    LOL - CA doesn't get any water from the grand canyon.
    You might want to read up on the Colorado River and it's aqueduct system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panzareta View Post
    lol.
    We were going to do it before but the stupid Sierra Club stopped it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    California couldn't survive without the rest of the nation.

    Hell, we will just damn up the grand canyon and there goes your water supply, drought hits, you go bankrupt, here comes the Chinese invasion but guess what, you have nobody to defend you.

    Good luck.
    I love how you unilaterally decide to dam up the Grand Canyon like it's feasible and like you have one ounce of authority or influence in seeing this idiotic idea completed. Is your PhD in Comedy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly5 View Post
    I love how you unilaterally decide to dam up the Grand Canyon like it's feasible and like you have one ounce of authority or influence in seeing this idiotic idea completed. Is your PhD in Comedy?
    Bridge Canyon Dam, also called Hualapai Dam, was a proposed dam in the lower Grand Canyon of the Colorado River, in northern Arizona in the United States. It would have been located near Bridge Canyon Rapids in an extremely rugged and isolated portion of the canyon, 235 miles (378*km) downstream of Lee's Ferry and at the uppermost end of Lake Mead.

    First proposed in the 1920s, the project was seriously considered by the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation for a period of over twenty years from the early 1950s to 1968. If built, the dam would have stood 740 feet (230*m) high, forming a reservoir stretching more than ninety miles (150*km) upstream, including thirteen miles (21*km) along the border of Grand Canyon National Park. The dam would serve mainly for hydropower production in conjunction with several others further upstream including Marble Canyon Dam, on the Colorado, Green and other rivers.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridge_Canyon_Dam

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Bridge Canyon Dam, also called Hualapai Dam, was a proposed dam in the lower Grand Canyon of the Colorado River, in northern Arizona in the United States. It would have been located near Bridge Canyon Rapids in an extremely rugged and isolated portion of the canyon, 235 miles (378*km) downstream of Lee's Ferry and at the uppermost end of Lake Mead.

    First proposed in the 1920s, the project was seriously considered by the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation for a period of over twenty years from the early 1950s to 1968. If built, the dam would have stood 740 feet (230*m) high, forming a reservoir stretching more than ninety miles (150*km) upstream, including thirteen miles (21*km) along the border of Grand Canyon National Park. The dam would serve mainly for hydropower production in conjunction with several others further upstream including Marble Canyon Dam, on the Colorado, Green and other rivers.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridge_Canyon_Dam
    I never said a dam couldn't be built, but one will not ever be built. The last time, according to what you posted, that this was considered was 1968. That's 49 years ago. Besides, we both know California is never going to leave the United States.

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